College Football

[drothgery]

I think it's funny how people bag on Boise because they had a close game against San Jose and Tulsa (who is actually decent and just beat UTEP). Do we all forget that a 2-7 Kansas came a play away from beating Texas? Or that Oklahoma has had close games against bad opponents?

Err... they've had close games against K-State (which isn't so hot this year, but was a top-10 team last year, and beat them), Texas (which is actually a better team, they just have mental hangups with Oklahoma), Oklahoma State, and A&M.

Kansas was a few plays away from beating almost everyone they played this year (excepting Oklahoma, and the games they won); they were the anti-Boise State. But they beat Tulsa 21-3.

And I'm not big on the quality loss issue. Losing a close game to a great team doesn't necessarily mean much.

Louisville may destroy Boise. Or maybe Boise will do what they've done all year and find a way to win.

Maybe. But I'm very suspicious of teams that "just find a way to win". Except for Ohio State's national championship team, most college teams that "just found a way to win" eventually ran up against a team that had too much talent.

 

[fett527]

A win is a win.

Except in college football. I hate that.

As for OSU in 2002 yes they pulled out close games against some bad teams, but they also pulled out the close games against the very good teams. I don't know who Boise State had on their complete schedule, but they should be given a chance. Nobody gave OSU a chance against Miami in 2002 and look what happened. (I'm not saying Boise State should play the for the championship just that they shouldn't be penalized for close wins).

 

[fett527]

Oh, and the BUCKEYES even made it to number 25 in the BCS standings!!!

 

[drothgery]

As for OSU in 2002 yes they pulled out close games against some bad teams, but they also pulled out the close games against the very good teams. I don't know who Boise State had on their complete schedule, but they should be given a chance. Nobody gave OSU a chance against Miami in 2002 and look what happened. (I'm not saying Boise State should play the for the championship just that they shouldn't be penalized for close wins).

Although I mentioned OSU in 2002 as a rare team that "just knew how to win" but managed to win a title anyway, they really don't belong in the same conversation as the others. Ohio State is a Big 10 team that's regularly in the top 10; the undefeated teams that either lost their bowl game or didn't get serious national title consideration weren't from programs of anywhere near the same caliber.

Besides, anyone who had watched Miami closely in 2002 knew that they'd be vulnerabe to a very good defensive team, and that neither Miami nor Ohio State would've been favorites against USC at the end of the year.

 

[fett527]

Zook, Willingham, DiNardo (Indiana), Crowton (BYU), Teevans (Standford)

Their falling like Dominoes now. Anyone else gonna get the axe? Whose gonna replace who?

 

[Crothian]

And Ron Turner got fired from Illinois....

 

[drothgery]

Zook, Willingham, DiNardo (Indiana), Crowton (BYU), Teevans (Standford)

Their falling like Dominoes now. Anyone else gonna get the axe? Whose gonna replace who?

Pasqualoni at Syracuse should be gone, but he keeps saving his job by winning the season finale (last year v. Notre Dame, this year v. BC).

 

[Dimwhit]

Pasqualoni at Syracuse should be gone, but he keeps saving his job by winning the season finale (last year v. Notre Dame, this year v. BC).

Isn't Syracuse still a possible for a BCS bowl after that victory? Thought I heard that somewhere.

Would that be a kicker...

 

[Crothian]

Pitt is going to get it from the Big East because the tie breaker will be BCS ranking I think...

 

[drothgery]

Pitt is going to get it from the Big East because the tie breaker will be BCS ranking I think...

The first tie breaker in this case (a 4-way tie among West Virginia, Pitt, BC, and Syracuse) is best record in games among all 4 teams. Syracuse and Pitt are 2-1; WVA and BC are 1-2. The second tiebreaker is head-to-head, and Syracuse beat Pitt this year. However, if one team is ranked more than 5 spots higher than the other in the BCS rankings (right now Pitt is #23, and Syracuse is unranked, so this applies), the higher-ranked team claims the conference title (and BCS bid) despite the head-to-head loss.

Pitt has one game left, against South Florida. If Pitt loses, there's a slim chance that it will no longer be 5 spots ahead of Syracuse, so the Orange would go to a BCS bowl. But they're still a 6-5 team that lost to Temple.