Combat Challenge - PCs vs Dragon

[Geo]

Really, someone should take a cleric with the reach feat and the harm spell, I am telling you, that will save the day. once you get past the spell resistance, but if you get your spell off first, and then an archer hits the dragon, that's one dead dragon.

 

[Piratecat]

Sorry - no time, even though this sounds like a ton of fun. When we were playtesting monsters for 3e, I set the 20th lvl iconic PCs up against a big dragon. When it threw Tordek through a prismatic wall, we knew things were going to get interesting.....

 

[Wippit Guud]

Really, someone should take a cleric with the reach feat and the harm spell, I am telling you, that will save the day. once you get past the spell resistance, but if you get your spell off first, and then an archer hits the dragon, that's one dead dragon.

Oh come in... seriously, I've heard this sooooo many times, you don't think I already have it beat?


(or am I just psyching out the competition? )

 

[Jeremy]

Another submission for the group. 32 pt point buy (Decrease WIS by 2 if you are using 30), 690,000 gp in expenditures, PHB/DMG only.

Tairgen Dragonslayer
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Race: Human
Paladin 20
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Str: 34 (+12)
Dex: 10 (+0)
Con: 14 (+2)
Int: 10 (+0)
Wis: 18 (+4)
Cha: 20 (+5)

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Max HP: 183
Initiative Mod: +4
Speed Walk 20'
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AC 18 (+5 rhino hide, +3 shield)
SV Fort +23, Ref +13, Will +17
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Armor

Rhino Hide +2
Large Steel Shield +1 of Reflection

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Weapons

Heavy Lance +35/+30/+25/+20 1d8+12 (19-20/x3)
(Holy Sword'd Heavy Lance Sprited Charging and Smiting Evil +47 5d8+185 (19-20/x3)
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Feats:
Improved Critical (Lance (Heavy)),Improved Initiative,Leadership,Mounted Combat,Power Attack,Ride-By Attack,Spirited Charge,Weapon Focus (Lance (Heavy))
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Skills
Concentration +27, Diplomacy +25, Handle Animal +12, Ride +27
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Equipment

Belt of Giant Strength +6
Boots of Speed
Celestial Armor +1 Barding
Cloak of Charisma +6
Helm of Teleportation
Heward's Handy Haversack
Horn of Blasting
Ioun Stone (Iridescent)
Ioun Stone (Pale Green)
Heavy Lance (4)
Lantern of Revealing
Manual of Bodily Health +4
Manual of Gainful Exercise +5
Periapt of Wisdom +6
Rhino Hide +2
Ring (Elemental Resistance Major)
Ring (Freedom of Movement)
Shield +1 (Large/Steel/Reflection)
Stone of Good Luck (Luckstone)
Wand (Cure Serious Wounds)
Warhorse (Heavy)

Carrying Capacity: 2800.0 Load: Light

Total Weight Carried: 73.0 lbs

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Spells (4/4/4/4)

Divine Favor x4
Remove Paralysis x2
Resist Elements x2
Heal Mount x3
Prayer x1
Death Ward x1
Dispel Evil x1
Holy Sword x2

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Special Abilities:
Detect Evil,Divine Grace,Divine Health,Lay on Hands 100 hp/day,Aura of Courage,Smite Evil 1/day,Remove Disease 6/week,Turn Undead 8/day,Special Mount

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Companions:

Heavy War Horse
4d8+8d8+36 (108)
Spd 50 ft/fly 90 (perfect)
AC 26 (-1 size, +1 Dex, +10 Natural, +6 celestial armor)

SQ Scent, Improved Evasion, Share Spells, Empathic Link, Share Saving Throws, Command Equine, SR 25
SV Fort +15, Ref +9, Will +7

Str 22, Dex 13, Con 17, Int 9, Wis 13, Cha 6
Listen +7, Spot +7

Cohort/Squire (Not Present)

 

[Wippit Guud]

You know.. posting your character on the board may not be the greatest of ideas

I have him beat already, though

 

[Jeremy]

I don't know if I have the time to participate in the battle, unless it's around this time of day (while I'm at work) when it comes around. So I thought I'd just throw him up there for anyone who wants to pilot him.

Don't forget guys to have a high spell power wizard with a greater metamagic rod of quickening to throw 2-5 Disjunctions on the dragon in the first couple of rounds.

You do NOT want to fight an antimagic shielded great wyrm.

 

[mmu1]

I think we should agree on a DM first, and then submit the characters to him... Or simply make "Dragon" and "PCs" threads either here or in the in character forums, and post stats only to the appropriate threads - assuming that we're all willing to be adults about it and not peek at what the other side is writing up.

Another issue - what are we doing as far as party balance? Do we want to go with a more-or-less balanced party, or should we just try for a way to throw as much high-level magic at the thing as possible? I'm inclined not to get too munchy about this - I've been thinking about seeing how much I can do with an ordinary, 20th level single class rogue...

 

[Wippit Guud]

I prefer submissions to the DM... I don't even want to be tempted

 

[Rashak Mani]

This last weekend we did a combat just like the one your planning to do... my suggestion DONT DO IT !

All involved will have super duper spells... the Dragon will be huge... we had to play on the floor tiles in order to represent the scale of the combat !!! CR25 dragons are like small-med buildings in size !!!

If you still want to go ahead... I suggest the Dragon color be chosen secretly to avoid easy buying of protection magic. Min maxing will make all characters distorted and overfocused.... DMing a Dragon the size of a small table if compared to other miniatures is a problem. Rules for high level spells are a nightmare... we are having a week of e-mail bashing my DM rulings during the game which barely started before going haywire...

How tall is the Dragon will be a issue for example too... his base is 80 x 40 but what about height.... etc... Forbid arrows of slaying naturally.... Anti Magic Field is obnoxious spell but cant or can be enlarged ? and so on....

Checkout these threads:


Dragon Duel Questions

Suggestions for Draconic Tactics...


You have been warned... this combat is a nightmare in logistics and rules...

 

[Wippit Guud]

In any smart party, they would do extensive research into the dragon, which is why I'll give them the color... but that's it

And, as it's taking place on the board, we'll let the DM decide the easiest way to run this out.

And I hope no one is cheesy enough to take the arrow of slaying route, it won't work