D&D (2024) Comeliness and Representation in Recent DnD Art

[Fifth Element]

Not a waste of space for them.

When the comment you're responding to was itself responding to someone claiming that it is a waste of space - full stop - this clarification is unnecessary. The entire point of the post you're responding to is that there is disagreement on the point, that it varies from person to person.

 

[Scribe]

Do we know how important the amount and quality of art is to the sales of RPG products?

I think Wizards knows, its always on the surveys, and if I had to guess, its very important.

 

[Fifth Element]

I think they're pretty clear that they feel it is needless. And I can see their point.

The poster in question made explicit One True Way arguments, so clarifying that it's subjective is reasonable in that context.

You can feel they're needless all you like. Doesn't change the fact that many people prefer the "needless" remakes.

 

[Incenjucar]

Chainmail bikinis and similar fetish garb can be depicted in the same scenarios they occur in the real world - in leisure moments far away from dungeons. If the books truly need a dwarf in nothing but a metal thong and his beard, put it in a scene where there's no reason to expect a need for better gear.

 

[Scribe]

Chainmail bikinis and similar fetish garb can be depicted in the same scenarios they occur in the real world - in leisure moments far away from dungeons. If the books truly need a dwarf in nothing but a metal thong and his beard, put it in a scene where there's no reason to expect a need for better gear.

Why?

 

[Incenjucar]

Why?

(Geeze that art is confusing... is he flying away from the fire dog with his giant fans?)

Because most characters do not have natural armor and wandering around with their muffin tops and top muffins flopping about makes it look like they plan to seduce the zombies they run into.

 

[Scribe]

Because most characters do not have natural armor and wandering around with their muffin tops and top muffins flopping about makes it look like they plan to seduce the zombies they run into.

top muffins!

The art is weird, no doubt, but that whole line was bearded, angry, near naked Dwarves. It doesnt have to make sense.

 

[Incenjucar]

top muffins!

The art is weird, no doubt, but that whole line was bearded, angry, near naked Dwarves. It doesnt have to make sense.

It doesn't have to not make sense either. If one absolutely must have titillating art in books used by middle school children it can at least be done in a way that makes any kind of sense. Adventurers are often -not- doing violence, and that's a much better time to show off the man meats for the vast majority of characters. Heck, BG3 takes the armor off everyone when they go to camp - that's when it makes sense!

 

[Scribe]

It doesn't have to not make sense either. If one absolutely must have titillating art in books used by middle school children it can at least be done in a way that makes any kind of sense. Adventurers are often -not- doing violence, and that's a much better time to show off the man meats for the vast majority of characters. Heck, BG3 takes the armor off everyone when they go to camp - that's when it makes sense!

I suppose I could hold my breath for some art with the Barbarian in the tavern with the ladies gathering around, but somehow I don't see it happening.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

I mean barbarians literally have a class feature to justify fighting wearing only a loincloth,* so I think it is fine to depict them doing that.

* (Made out of leather, not chainmail.)