Complete Scoundrel Here

[Kobold Avenger]

Also does the Conceal Spellcasting allow you to cast spells completely un-noticed?

Meaning that you could discretely cast some sort of enchantment spell on someone to take control of them withouth anyone noticing.

 

[blargney the second]

That was my thought. They're feats that cost skill points instead of feat points. If I wanted interchangible character points, I'd play Hero.

That's funny: the exact same thing that makes you dislike it is the exact same reason I *do* like it.

Feat slots are few and far between: when you spend them it should do something significant to your characters. Everybody gets more skill points, and I think it's very cool that you can use them to get tricks because some abilities aren't worth an entire feat, but are still useful to have!

 

[EyeontheMountain]

Also does the Conceal Spellcasting allow you to cast spells completely un-noticed?

Meaning that you could discretely cast some sort of enchantment spell on someone to take control of them withouth anyone noticing.

You oppose your sleight of hand check against your opponent's spot check. If you win, they do not know you are casting a spell, and cannot counter you or get an AoO on you for casting.

I think we'll see people taking mroe sleight of hand ranks now, as a lot of the sleight of hand tricks are pretty good.

 

[EyeontheMountain]

Feat slots are few and far between: when you spend them it should do something significant to your characters. Everybody gets more skill points, and I think it's very cool that you can use them to get tricks because some abilities aren't worth an entire feat, but are still useful to have!

I really agree withthe above. Tricks are a lot cheaper tahn feats for any class. Sure everyone wants mroe skills, but even a fighter withtheir poor sklill selection could grab one or two tricks (not much else to spend them on) anda rogue with better skill points, could really sue a lot of these tricks. They are really quite good and I hope we see more in Complete Champion.

 

[EvolutionKB]

You could do this to some extent(I don't have CS yet to see how different it is)with the alternate skill usage for Sleight of Hand in Races of Stone.

 

[Furry]

I think I have to start a character with Conceal Spellcasting and Invisible Spell...Wha Happen??

 

[Timespike]

Also levels of this class count as paladin levels for blackguards

Interesting. That makes two (Shadowbane Inquisitor being the other.)

 

[Klaus]

The feat list posted at WotC's lists Improved Familiar. What are does CS add to it?

 

[Banshee16]

The feat list posted at WotC's lists Improved Familiar. What are does CS add to it?

It would be nice if the towed the line with some of the other D20 publishers....there are so many variants of "Improved Familiar" now. Some books like the Green Ronin Shaman book, allow for medium sized familiars, and the Feat prereq is lvl 5. I'd love if WotC allowed the Improved Familiar feat to allow for something like a wolf or leopard or something, instead of only pseudodragons, formians, and other fantastical creatures.

Banshee

 

[MKMcArtor]

I was really hoping for at least one Bard prestige class though, but it looks like we're not getting one. That's very disapointing, was there a reason one was not included?

The short answer is: I couldn't think of any. That said, there are prestige classes that, IIRC, a bard most easily qualifies for (like the cloaked dancer, for example). Rest assured, Wes and I are not anti-bard. We're more of the "what do you do with these guys?" camp.