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MKMcArtor said:
The short answer is: I couldn't think of any. :( That said, there are prestige classes that, IIRC, a bard most easily qualifies for (like the cloaked dancer, for example). Rest assured, Wes and I are not anti-bard. We're more of the "what do you do with these guys?" camp. :lol:

Any Gallant updates from the old bard's Handbook? Or the old blade guy who used to twist around? The old Bard's Handbook had quite a few excellent PrCs that I still don't think have been updated.
 

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JoeGKushner said:
Any Gallant updates from the old bard's Handbook? Or the old blade guy who used to twist around? The old Bard's Handbook had quite a few excellent PrCs that I still don't think have been updated.
The Gallant was wonderful, if a bit silly. I loved playing one! 3rd edition update would rock.



Mark
 

So for anyone with the book, what all is mentioned about the Free League / Indeps in the organizations section? I noticed their symbol in the book's art gallery, so I'm rather curious. :D
 

For anyone who has the book:
Can you give me more information about the Nimble Stand skill trick? Does it allow you to always stand up without provoking an AoO, or is there a limit to the number of times per combat it can be used?

Also can the skill tricks Nimble Stand and Back on Your Feet be combined to allow you to stand as a swift action without provoking an AoO?

I hate when my warblade get tripped by a chain tripper. It sounds like these skill tricks would be a good counter to that tactic.
 



Kurotowa said:
Speaking of the art gallery, is the Mindspy a PrC that got dropped or did the OP just not mention it?

It got renamed the psibond agent. The "Mindspy" title of that piece is the fault of the idjit who wrote that part of the art order.

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Mike McArtor
Idjit
 

JoeGKushner said:
Any Gallant updates from the old bard's Handbook? Or the old blade guy who used to twist around? The old Bard's Handbook had quite a few excellent PrCs that I still don't think have been updated.

None of those, unfortunately. There was a conscious effort dictated to us by Wizards of the Coast to not reprint what came before. Although we took that mostly to mean earlier third edition stuff, we also avoided redoing stuff from older editions.

And also, to be honest, I don't think I ever owned Complete Book of Bards because, you know, bards. :lol:
 

MKMcArtor said:
None of those, unfortunately. There was a conscious effort dictated to us by Wizards of the Coast to not reprint what came before. Although we took that mostly to mean earlier third edition stuff, we also avoided redoing stuff from older editions.

And also, to be honest, I don't think I ever owned Complete Book of Bards because, you know, bards. :lol:

Ah, but the problem there is that the old Complete Book of Bards actually made them cool by giving the reader many options.

And not reprinting what came before? Is that something new for this book? I mean, how many times has the Bladesinger been updated in 3.0 and 3.5? How much material from the various 96 page books made it's way into the 192 now 160 page books?

Seems an odd thing to say given the reworking of demon and devil lords just done in the two books of fiends for example.
 

Mercule said:
That was my thought. They're feats that cost skill points instead of feat points. If I wanted interchangible character points, I'd play Hero.

If I get the book (unlikely), I'll probably either make the feats with minimum skill requirements or disallow them entirely.

Any rule or new mechanic that is not a Feat is a good thing. WAY TOO many feats and too few feat slots. I'm very much looking forward to seeing the new tricks and such.
 

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