computer help

[drothgery]

I recommend not listening to Windows users opinions about Macs. Their opinions are largely outdated and fed to them from other sources. (Not all, but most.)

Look, a 1.25 GHz G4 (in any new eMac) is not in the same performance class as the CPU you'd see in a reasonably configured and comprably-priced PC (a 2.5 GHz+ P4, or an Athlon XP 2500+ or better). It's just not possible to reasonably argue with this. You can argue that for web surfing and office apps, any modern CPU is overkill, so the eMac's relative disadvantage there doesn't matter much. But don't pretend it doesn't exist.

 

[Galethorn]

I recommend not listening to Windows users opinions about Macs. Their opinions are largely outdated and fed to them from other sources. (Not all, but most.)

Absolutely correct, but you could argue that it goes the other way as well. I will suffice to say that there are many people on either side of the 'debate' that haven't used both, and don't speak from firsthand experience. And, I know of a lot of people who take it all a bit too seriously.

And, to be fair, I was taking things a bit too seriously, and came out looking a bit...boorish.

So, I'll say now that Macs are perfectly good computers, and, in my experience, are just great. I learned on a PC, however, so they'll always be less convienient for me, personally. The best thing to do is use what you're most familiar with. Period.

But, if you want my personal, biased opinion, get a PC. Sure, their main operating system is made by a giant, evil corporation, but the average PC probably has about 1/4 as much plasic as an E-mac/anything from apple, and plastic is produced by Big Oil (who themselves make microsoft look like a Mom 'n' Pop operation), so there!

Anyway, all things being equal, a PC will save you money (more 'compting' for the money), but a Mac would be much, much better if that's what you're most familiar with.

 

[Ottergame]

Absolutely correct, but you could argue that it goes the other way as well. I will suffice to say that there are many people on either side of the 'debate' that haven't used both, and don't speak from firsthand experience. And, I know of a lot of people who take it all a bit too seriously.

And, to be fair, I was taking things a bit too seriously, and came out looking a bit...boorish.

So, I'll say now that Macs are perfectly good computers, and, in my experience, are just great. I learned on a PC, however, so they'll always be less convienient for me, personally. The best thing to do is use what you're most familiar with. Period.

But, if you want my personal, biased opinion, get a PC. Sure, their main operating system is made by a giant, evil corporation, but the average PC probably has about 1/4 as much plasic as an E-mac/anything from apple, and plastic is produced by Big Oil (who themselves make microsoft look like a Mom 'n' Pop operation), so there!

Anyway, all things being equal, a PC will save you money (more 'compting' for the money), but a Mac would be much, much better if that's what you're most familiar with.

The only time you'll probley regret buying a Mac is when you read up on that great new game coming out. And chances are that it's going to be PC only.

 

[Tarrasque Wrangler]

Well, I've owned a Mac and a PC and let me tell you: I wouldn't take 3 Macs versus my Sony VAIO. Sony blows Apple out of the water.

 

[Dimwhit]

Absolutely correct, but you could argue that it goes the other way as well. I will suffice to say that there are many people on either side of the 'debate' that haven't used both, and don't speak from firsthand experience. And, I know of a lot of people who take it all a bit too seriously.

Couldn't agree with you more!

Look, a 1.25 GHz G4 (in any new eMac) is not in the same performance class as the CPU you'd see in a reasonably configured and comprably-priced PC (a 2.5 GHz+ P4, or an Athlon XP 2500+ or better). It's just not possible to reasonably argue with this. You can argue that for web surfing and office apps, any modern CPU is overkill, so the eMac's relative disadvantage there doesn't matter much. But don't pretend it doesn't exist.

Not saying you're wrong. I just don't agree. I worked for quite a while on a 1.6 GHz Intel machine when I worked at HP. At the time I had an 800 MHz G4 PowerMac at home. The PowerMac had about twice the computing power as the HP. It was faster, pure and simple. YMMV.

I really think alot of the Mac talk depends on if AND when that person used a Mac. They've kicked it into another gear the last two years or so, so that's primarly what I base my opinions on.

 

[Eternal Prosper]

ive decided i want to custom build my custom computer. i dont know what to buy first. the case or some of the components. thanks alot guys. and for u mac guys when i get a job im getting a mac laptop but thats a year or two from now

 

[Galethorn]

If by that you mean you're building it yourself, then I recomend getting components from Newegg.

First, they have free fedex shipping on almost everything.

Second, they've got close to the best pre-shipping prices (and with the free shipping, the total usually ends up being the best).

Third, they have some of the best return policies, customer support, and all that sort of stuff that I've ever come to experience.

Forth, they ship things very quickly (in that they often pack and send the part on the same day that you order it, and it almost always arrives the same week if you order it, with the free shipping, on a monday or tuesday).

So, very good prices, you get it fast, and if it's defective, you can get it replaced very painlessly.

As for the Mac laptop, good idea. I'd get one myself if 1.) I had a job, and 2.) I had all my favorite software in Mac format. I know they make it, but neither my dad or I wants to buy office, photoshop, or any of that stuff when we've already got PC copies.