CONAN RPG cover and details released

Corinth said:
So what, exactly, did Mongoose do that couldn't be done within the limits of the d20 System Trademark License?

Apparently they changed the magic system, alignment rules, and how dexterity affects combat (as was mentioned above). Big no no's if you're going to use the STL, IIRC.
 

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Felon said:
That sounds like some steps in the right direction. In Conan's world, wizards are the bad guys. I can't recall any stories featuring what could be considered white magicians.

What about the wizard played by Mako in the 2 Conan movies?
 

Klaatu B. Nikto said:
What about the wizard played by Mako in the 2 Conan movies?

Well, those are movies. Great as the first one was, it butchered Conan's history, and changed some other stuff as well (I still say they should've dyed Arnie's hair black). And Mako didn't exactly practice white magic, IIRC.
 

Felon said:
That sounds like some steps in the right direction. In Conan's world, wizards are the bad guys. I can't recall any stories featuring what could be considered white magicians.

In The Hour of the Dragon, Conan gains help from a Priest of Ashura and an old witch that lives in the woods. They use their magic to help Conan defeat an evil undead wizard.

Although in REH's Conan stories, spellcasters are rare, and the vast majority of them are evil. A Conan RPG would definately be different from a typical D&D setting, where spellcasters are common and can be found nearly anywhere.
 

Dark Jezter said:
In The Hour of the Dragon, Conan gains help from a Priest of Ashura and an old witch that lives in the woods. They use their magic to help Conan defeat an evil undead wizard.

Hmm. Doesn't sound like part of the Conan canon proper...is this a Lin Carter or [shudder] L. Sprague De Camp tale?
 

Felon said:
Hmm. Doesn't sound like part of the Conan canon proper...is this a Lin Carter or [shudder] L. Sprague De Camp tale?

No, Hour of the Dragon is an original Howard, one of the first and one of the best. But, it is not as bad as it might sound...

Hadrathus, the priest of Asura, provides Conan with no direct magical aid. Asuran priests are more concerned with unveiling and dealing with illusion and falsehood, and the few spells they seem to know deal with this. Asuran priests are noted for their imformation gathering and dispersal abilities. Only once during the entire story do the priests of Asura do anything "magical," and that is to provide a heavy mist as a cover for a ruse. Hadrathus also claims to have cast some counterspells, but that seems to have been through his use of the Heart of Ahriman. So really, only two spells... a counterspell, and a mist.

As for the witch, Zelata, she provides Conan with visions of what is occuring in his capital, and what has occured in the past. She also casts a sleep/recuperation spell.

Xaltotun, the Bad Guy, however, casts more flashy and potent spells. But then, he is the Bad Guy, and also the most potent wizard in all of the world...
 


Mystaros said:
No, Hour of the Dragon is an original Howard, one of the first and one of the best. But, it is not as bad as it might sound...

Actually, The Hour of the Dragon was the very last Conan story that Howard wrote before commiting suicide. The only novel-length Conan story written by REH, he was hoping that he could use it to become a full-fledged novelist rather than a pulp-fiction writer. However, the publishing house that was going to print the story went bankrupt before it could be printed, and The Hour of the Dragon was instead published as a multi-part serial in Weird Tales magazine. The Hour of the Dragon would not be published in novel format until many years after Howard's death.

The very first Conan story ever published was The Phoenix on the Sword, in which King Conan fights off an assassination within the walls of his own palace. The story was actually a rewrite of an unsellable King Kull story called By This Axe I Rule.

Back to the subject of spellcasters in Conan stories: In The Scarlet Citadel, Conan recieves aid from a sorcerer named Pelias, although it only seemed to be an alliance of necessity... the two had a mutual enemy.
 
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skinnydwarf said:
Apparently they changed the magic system, alignment rules, and how dexterity affects combat (as was mentioned above). Big no no's if you're going to use the STL, IIRC.
Changing the magic system is okay. Changing/ditching alignment is okay. How dexterity affects combat may be okay. Again, I see nothing that makes clear as to why there's no d20 logo on the book. Does it have character generation rules?
 


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