conversion manual?

[Lonely Tylenol]

Fine. I'll quibble over verbage.

Isn't it funny how one's choice of words can completely change the implied meaning of two otherwise fairly similar utterances? Who'd have thunk it?

 

[The Little Raven]

(try to translate a Gnome Bard or a Half-Orc Monk when none of those races or classes even exist anymore)

So, the gnome being in the MM means it no longer exists? When did that memo go out?

 

[Delta]

From James Wyatt's blog:
( http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=906388 )

You can't really just convert a character directly from 3e to 4e. We pretended you could do that from 2e to 3e, but that conversion book was pretty well bogus. The fact is, as I explained it a lot at GenCon, that your character isn't what's on your character sheet: your character is the guy in your head. The character sheet is how the guy in your head interacts with the rules of the game. The rules of the game are different, so you'll be creating a new implementation of that character, but the character needn't change much.

 

[Dragonhelm]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but why was the 2e to 3e conversion manual considered "bogus." I found it to be helpful for the most part.

 

[hong]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but why was the 2e to 3e conversion manual considered "bogus." I found it to be helpful for the most part.

It was b0rken when it came to multiclassing, especially multiclassed casters. In hindsight it would have been almost impossible to convert such characters faithfully, since in 2E they were often overpowered while in 3E they're underpowered. But they didn't know that at the time.

 

[The Little Raven]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but why was the 2e to 3e conversion manual considered "bogus." I found it to be helpful for the most part.

Because when it came down to it, the amount of different stats and material in 3e made the conversion guide essentially come down to "remake your character at the same level, with the same ability scores, and then do everything you would when making a brand-new character of that level."

 

[Hunter In Darkness]

ok how is this makeing the man a lier for just saying what wotc has been saying from the get go ...dont try to convert start over..u guys are nit picking . that was always my big issue i like my char and i dont like being told to start over no point in trying to convert to much trouble.if its to much trouble way bother with 4e at all look what they did to fr to make it fit. so if he lied over what wotc said then i guess they did to..

 

[The Little Raven]

ok how is this makeing the man a lier for just saying what wotc has been saying from the get go ...dont try to convert start over..u guys are nit picking . that was always my big issue i like my char and i dont like being told to start over no point in trying to convert to much trouble.if its to much trouble way bother with 4e at all look what they did to fr to make it fit. so if he lied over what wotc said then i guess they did to..

Because he said something that wasn't true. WotC has never insisted you cannot/should not convert characters from 3e to 4e. They just suggest starting a new campaign from 1st level (the normal starting point for the game), since that's honestly the best way to learn a new game.

 

[RedShirtNo5]

From Bill Slavicsek Ampersand

In essence, using the 4th Edition rules, you’ll be able to rebuild your character around the same concept and backstory as before, but there won’t be a magic formula that says, “change this number to that number” or “this power to that power.”

 

[Hunter In Darkness]

Because he said something that wasn't true. WotC has never insisted you cannot/should not convert characters from 3e to 4e. They just suggest starting a new campaign from 1st level (the normal starting point for the game), since that's honestly the best way to learn a new game.

hummm

Nope. WotC says it's not practical to convert campaigns from 3E to 4E. They insist you start fresh with new campaigns and new characters in 4E.

nope he said they said it was not practical not they said u couldnt..and u know thats just what they did say in the early podcasts and interviews. its been pointed to again and again.
so if he is lieing so is wotc..i try to read what someone saids b4 i call them a lier myself


oh and b4 the char/campaign thing comes up it was strongly suggested that u make all new ones if i really wanted to i could prob find the podcastes im sure someone will but im tired and sick and just dont feel like it.