Converting Epic Level Creatures

[demiurge1138]

I would prefer "epic" in this case to be 19-21. Still unique. Fafnir wasn't all that powerful in the legends--he was killed with one blow. His only claim to fame over "dragon" is that he had a name.

 

[Clifford]

But how powerful was sigurd? I mean Thor probably couldn't pwn a cr 21 dragon in one blow. But anyway i see you point Some of the other stuff we converted was more powerful than fafnir. I personally would like CR at least CR 21 myself if not a little bigger. This is an epic thread after all

 

[GrayLinnorm]

The article "The Vikings' Dragons", from Dragon #182 mentions Sigurd and Fafnir and says Sigurd is the only reported survivor of a fight with a great wyrm linmorn, which would be Fafnir. This was when linnorms had age categories.

The article doesn't provide stats for Fafnir though or even suggest what type of linnorm he would be.

 

[Clifford]

Here is one breif telling of the myth..

Fafnir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[freyar]

Let's stretch our wings a little and make a new (and/or unique) type of linnorm. The legend suggests some kind of curse on Fafnir, which is maybe something we can work with.

That story really reminds me of Turin and Glaurung in Tolkien, as well. Now I see the professor's inspiration.

 

[GrayLinnorm]

Since Fafnir was originally a dwarf, I thought he could have some dwarven racial traits. Some traits he could have are stonecunning, the bonus to Appraise checks (appropiate for a greedy dragon), a bonus to saves against poison, possibly stability, and maybe even the dodge bonus versus giants. The dwarven saving throws against spells could be apropriate, or would that be redundant with spell resistance?

 

[Shade]

Since Fafnir was originally a dwarf, I thought he could have some dwarven racial traits. Some traits he could have are stonecunning, the bonus to Appraise checks (appropiate for a greedy dragon), a bonus to saves against poison, possibly stability, and maybe even the dodge bonus versus giants. The dwarven saving throws against spells could be apropriate, or would that be redundant with spell resistance?

Great idea!

So can we all agree to meet at CR 21?

 

[Clifford]

Yeah cr 21 just to get things rolling.

I also like the dwarf stuff. Maybe the Dwarf linorn are his offspring and we could stat out an advanced version for fafy himself.

 

[Shade]

If we drop the spellcasting common to many of the linnorms, he could probably have more Hit Dice and be a bit tougher in melee for his CR.

The sea linnorm, which lacks spellcasting and SLAs, has 26 HD at CR 21.

 

[GrayLinnorm]

Yeah, I was wondering about the spellcasting myself, since nothing in the original myths says anything about Fafnir having magical powers.