Converting Epic Level Creatures

[freyar]

Well, I'm going to start by throwing my support to just converting one "tube segment" or whatever you call it. It could still be pretty epic.

 

[Cleon]

Since Mortis was kind enough to post the stats, I say let's do it. Megalith can be next.

More draeden info:

Draeden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Draeden | Planewalker
Dragon Lore

Don't forget that Pandius have a conversion of their own, which might be a useful reference:

Draeden

 

[freyar]

Ok, do we want to maintain that sort of challenge level or even increase it?

Looks like it'll need essentially unlimited spell casting; those power points aren't much of a real limit, I'd wager.

 

[Shade]

In some ways, it seems a really epic version of this:

Creature Catalog - Preview Creature

 

[Cleon]

Ok, do we want to maintain that sort of challenge level or even increase it?

Looks like it'll need essentially unlimited spell casting; those power points aren't much of a real limit, I'd wager.

Rather than spell casting I was thinking of making it an Ultimate Psionicist, able to manifest ANY spell or psionic power with psionic power points.

It also needs that "Reflect Any Attack" ability, probably powered by PPPs as well.

 

[freyar]

Shade, are you saying draeden are the mysterious mature draknor?

The thing about the psionics approach is that it has such a huge number of power points that it's almost ridiculous to keep track of them. Or is the number of points not as high as it seems to me?

In any case, let's settle on basics. Aberration (extraplanar), right? Are we doing the whole thing or just a tentacle? Also, given that the whole thing is so gigantic, isn't 101 HD awfully low?

 

[Cleon]

Shade, are you saying draeden are the mysterious mature draknor?

The thing about the psionics approach is that it has such a huge number of power points that it's almost ridiculous to keep track of them. Or is the number of points not as high as it seems to me?

But isn't it supposed to have ridiculously high resources?

In any case, let's settle on basics. Aberration (extraplanar), right? Are we doing the whole thing or just a tentacle? Also, given that the whole thing is so gigantic, isn't 101 HD awfully low?

I was thinking Outsider (Extraplanar, Psionic) myself.

101 HD does seem a bit low, but I suppose having a Con of 100 might help compensate it.

Besides, that's the starting HD. Most extant Draedan are probably seriously advanced.

 

[freyar]

My point is that their resources are so high, it's probably easier just to make them infinite/unlimited and remove the need to track the power points.

Even the 101HD ones are tremendously huge!

Ok, need to run, have 7 hours of driving to do today...

 

[Shade]

My point is that their resources are so high, it's probably easier just to make them infinite/unlimited and remove the need to track the power points.

Agreed. Lesser creatures exist with unlimited casting, so I don't see an issue here.

Even the 101HD ones are tremendously huge!

Indeed. I looked through some of the bigger epic creatures, and I think 101 HD will work for our purposes.

Ok, need to run, have 7 hours of driving to do today...

Safe travels!

 

[Mortis]

Have we decided if we're 'just' doing a single tentacle or a watered-down version of a complete draeden?

If just a tentacle then we need an excuse of why it would be alone - either that or they're alway encountered in a 40 strong cluster.

How about that they 'bud' off to reproduce?

Regards
Mortis