Converting Greyhawk monsters

[Cleon]

That could be fun. Something like "blind" rage.

How about something similar to confusion?

 

[Shade]

How about something similar to confusion?

Sure, but probably with more limited options (maybe just attack nearest creature".)

For the basics, how about half as tough as a phantasmal slayer?

Thus, 8 Hit Dice.

Phantasmal Slayer: Str -, Dex 21, Con 20, Int 22, Wis 17, Cha 26

Maybe Str -, Dex 17, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 11, Cha 18?

 

[Cleon]

Sure, but probably with more limited options (maybe just attack nearest creature".)

I'd go for three - "attack nearest creature", "attack nearest object" and "flail wildly at thin air".

For the basics, how about half as tough as a phantasmal slayer?

Thus, 8 Hit Dice.

Phantasmal Slayer: Str -, Dex 21, Con 20, Int 22, Wis 17, Cha 26

Maybe Str -, Dex 17, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 11, Cha 18?

8 HD is fine but you're shortchanging its "Int Genius". I'd prefer something like:

Str -, Dex 17, Con 15, Int 18, Wis 15, Cha 20

 

[Cleon]

I think I favor this approach, but keeping it native to the Negative Energy Plane and using simple incorporeality rather than ghostlike etherealness.

They remind me a bit of the Phantasmal Slayer from Heroes of Horror. We might use that as a bit of inspiration, making these lesser "kin".

I liked the idea of it being immune to physical attacks á la etherealness.

Suppose it's usually invisible and creates a phantasm or pattern illusion of itself. That'd explain why it's apparently immune to damage - its opponents attack the projected illusion, not the real Darksider.

 

[Shade]

Oops! I missed the "genius". Those scores appeal.

Added the basics to Homebrews.

 

[freyar]

I like the idea that it's invisible and has a projection. Might as well let it be incorporeal as well as invisible, too.

 

[Shade]

I like the idea that it's invisible and has a projection. Might as well let it be incorporeal as well as invisible, too.

Yep, that works for me.

 

[freyar]

If Cleon agrees to that, should we think about the nightmare illusion ability?

 

[Cleon]

I like the idea that it's invisible and has a projection. Might as well let it be incorporeal as well as invisible, too.

I was assuming we'd keep the incorporeality with the invisibility, wouldn't want to make them a pushover...

If Cleon agrees to that, should we think about the nightmare illusion ability?

Proceed with the Nightmare!

 

[Shade]

Updated with natural invisibility.

For the "nightmare illusion", is it going to be some combination of mirror image, simulacrum, and maybe frightful presence or another fear spell/ability?