D&D 3E/3.5 Converting monsters from Mayfair Games Role Aids product line

[freyar]

No advancement but making other types of droid critters appeals.

 

[Cleon]

No advancement but making other types of droid critters appeals.

Shall I put that in the Working Draft then.

We've got some other Mayfair Droids on the books, but none of them are Laser Security Tanks.

 

[freyar]

Well, we could make some security tanks or, if you prefer, just let these advance. Your call.

 

[Cleon]

Well, we could make some security tanks or, if you prefer, just let these advance. Your call.

The Laser Security Tanks are advancing!

Oh heck, I'll just put in the conventional 5-8 HD (Medium); 9-12 HD (Large).

They look about a Challenge Rating 4 to me.

It'll be easy enough for a DM to make them BIGGER if they want to.

Updating the Guardian Droid Working Draft.

Hmm, think about bigger...

Mystaran Gargantuan Guardian Droid
(Aka Laser Security Tank)
Gargantuan Construct
Hit Dice: 32d10+60 (236 hp)
Initiative: +3
Speed: 80 ft. (16 squares)
Armor Class: 22 (-4 size, -1 Dex, +17 natural), touch 5, flat-footed 22
Base Attack/Grapple: +24/+49
Attack: Laser +20 ranged touch (12d6/19-20 25d6 plus DC 49 Fort save or instant death) or slam +33 melee (4d6+19)
Full Attack: Laser +20 ranged touch (12d6/19-20 25d6 plus DC 49 Fort save or instant death) or slam +33 melee (4d6+19)
Space/Reach: 20 ft./15 ft.
Special Attacks: Laser, trample 3d8+19 [Reflex DC 49]
Special Qualities: Construct traits, damage reduction 5/adamantine, radarsight 600 ft. [max 10 mile, detectable 200 miles], radiospeech 200 miles, robot traits, tracked chassis
Saves: Fort +10, Ref +9, Will +10
Abilities: Str 36, Dex 8, Con —, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 1
Skills: Listen +37, Spot +37
Feats: Alertness (B), Cleave, Great Cleave, Improved Critical (laser), Improved Initiative, Improved Natural Weapon (laser), Improved Sunder, Overwhelming Critical (laser), Point Blank Shot, Power Attack, Precise Shot, Weapon Focus (laser)
Environment: Any land or underground
Organization: Solitary
Challenge Rating: 18
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always neutral
Advancement: 33-64 HD (Gargantuan); 65-96 HD (Colossal)
Level Adjustment: —

 

[Cleon]

We've still got the fluff text and the Defective Droid version of these mechanical critters to sort out.

 

[freyar]

Are constructs living creatures eligible for that template?

I'm trying to sort out some descriptive text, but maybe we can do the defective version first. It seems to me they should have some kind of problem with their laser and definitely a short in their logic circuits.

 

[Cleon]

Are constructs living creatures eligible for that template?

They're living creatures if I say they are!

Come to think of it, we should never have limited it to living creatures since the Immortal set has Gargantuan Undead which are by definition not living.

Furthermore, IIRC a gargoyle is a construct in Basic D&D (or, at least, some editions of it).

Also, we started allowing for incorporeal gargantuans, since the Immortal Set has Shadows and such-like.

Hmm, we'd better change it to "any creature" then.

I'm trying to sort out some descriptive text, but maybe we can do the defective version first. It seems to me they should have some kind of problem with their laser and definitely a short in their logic circuits.

Hmm, sounds like something a Robot Drill Instructor would shout at its recruit "do you have a short in your logic circuits, you rusty little cuckoo clock!"

 

[freyar]

Of course! Would you agree to turn the racial bonus to the laser into a penalty?

 

[Cleon]

Of course! Would you agree to turn the racial bonus to the laser into a penalty?

Hmm, it already has a -2 competence penalty to its ranged attacks for having "Defective Circuits", which reduces its laser to a +4 ranged touch. If that's not enough, we can say it doesn't get its +3 "Targeting Sensors" bonus to its laser, which cuts it to a +1 ranged touch.

A 5 point drop in accuracy seems to be enough. If you want a penalty as well I'd like to hear a decent argument first.

 

[freyar]

Hmm, the -2 competence penalty is probably enough. But we need to get something fun for the logic breakdown. Unfortunately, I'm blanking other than having it spin in circles.