Converting monsters from Second Edition Monstrous Compendiums

[freyar]

Revising a little more:

Dream Haunting (Su): Mullonga can visit the dreams of sleeping individuals currently shaken, frightened, or panicked by her terrify ability. To invade someone’s dreams, Mullonga can become incorporeal and enter the victim's body. The sleeper suffers from tormenting dreams and takes 1d3 points of Constitution drain upon awakening. Mullonga gains a +1 bonus to her caster level and may use her frightful casting for a full hour after ending the dream haunting for each hour that she haunts a victim's dreams. Effectively, the victim counts as a creature with a fear condition within 60 ft of Mullonga (to meet the requirments of her frightful casting ability). Mullonga is automatically expelled, becomes corporeal, and takes xd8 damage if she is haunting a victim who awakens. Mullonga does not have the inherent ability to become incorporeal except to haunt a victim's dreams.

Since the SRD doesn't seem to address sleeping with a fear condition, should we make some specific comment in Terrify and revision to Dream Haunting?

BTW, I think homebrews could use an update, and she's sure taking a while!

 

[Shade]

Since the SRD doesn't seem to address sleeping with a fear condition, should we make some specific comment in Terrify and revision to Dream Haunting?

Yeah, probably so.

BTW, I think homebrews could use an update, and she's sure taking a while!

She sure is!

Updated.

 

[freyar]

Want to put Terrify in the homebrews entry, too? Maybe state that shaken creatures sleep/trance normally, frightened ones can sleep if they make a DC X Will save but have a +2 circumstance bonus on Listen or other checks to awaken, and panicked creatures can't sleep either at all or without a DC X+5 save?

 

[Cleon]

Revising a little more:

Dream Haunting (Su): Mullonga can visit the dreams of sleeping individuals currently shaken, frightened, or panicked by her terrify ability. To invade someone’s dreams, Mullonga can become incorporeal and enter the victim's body. The sleeper suffers from tormenting dreams and takes 1d3 points of Constitution drain upon awakening. Mullonga gains a +1 bonus to her caster level and may use her frightful casting for a full hour after ending the dream haunting for each hour that she haunts a victim's dreams. Effectively, the victim counts as a creature with a fear condition within 60 ft of Mullonga (to meet the requirments of her frightful casting ability). Mullonga is automatically expelled, becomes corporeal, and takes xd8 damage if she is haunting a victim who awakens. Mullonga does not have the inherent ability to become incorporeal except to haunt a victim's dreams.

Hmm, I think this bit could do with some rephrasing:

Mullonga gains a +1 bonus to her caster level and may use her frightful casting for a full hour after ending the dream haunting for each hour that she haunts a victim's dreams. Effectively, the victim counts as a creature with a fear condition within 60 ft of Mullonga (to meet the requirments of her frightful casting ability).

Something like.

After ending the dream haunting Mullonga gains a +1 bonus to her caster level for a full hour for each hour she spent haunting her victim's dreams. Furthermore, for the duration of this CL bonus the dream haunting victim always meets the requirements of Mullonga's frightful casting ability (as if the victim was a creature with a fear condition within 60 ft. of Mullonga)

 

[freyar]

That works for me.

Hey, if she's expelled and takes damage (how much, anyway?) do we want to say she forfeits the CL bonus, etc?

 

[Cleon]

That works for me.

Hey, if she's expelled and takes damage (how much, anyway?) do we want to say she forfeits the CL bonus, etc?

Rather not have Mullonga take damage when expelled, prefer having her disorientated for a few rounds (maybe shaken? That would be ironic).

Agree she should lose the CL bonus.

 

[Shade]

Rather not have Mullonga take damage when expelled, prefer having her disorientated for a few rounds (maybe shaken? That would be ironic).

That would be delightfully ironic.

 

[freyar]

Ok, revising again:

Dream Haunting (Su): Mullonga can visit the dreams of sleeping individuals currently shaken, frightened, or panicked by her terrify ability. To invade someone’s dreams, Mullonga can become incorporeal and enter the victim's body. The sleeper suffers from tormenting dreams and takes 1d3 points of Constitution drain upon awakening. After ending the dream haunting Mullonga gains a +1 bonus to her caster level for a full hour for each hour she spent haunting her victim's dreams. Furthermore, for the duration of this CL bonus the dream haunting victim always meets the requirements of Mullonga's frightful casting ability (as if the victim was a creature with a fear condition within 60 ft. of Mullonga). Mullonga is automatically expelled, becomes corporeal, loses her CL bonus, and becomes shaken for 1d6 rounds if she is haunting a victim who awakens. Mullonga does not have the inherent ability to become incorporeal except to haunt a victim's dreams.

Shade, can you add Terrify to the homebrews version? And let's decide on sleeping when scared. I had a proposal in post #863.

 

[Shade]

Wow, terrify was waaaaaaay back! Sorry I missed it for so long.

Updated.

As for this:

Maybe state that shaken creatures sleep/trance normally, frightened ones can sleep if they make a DC X Will save but have a +2 circumstance bonus on Listen or other checks to awaken, and panicked creatures can't sleep either at all or without a DC X+5 save?

I have no objections. Cleon?

 

[freyar]

One question to ask about that proposal is if panicked creatures should be able to sleep at all.