Converting prehistoric creatures

[Shade]

Wow...lots of computer issues around these parts, nowadays!

So how large and how many Hit Dice for our giant agnaths? Did we want to base them off a specific agnathan?

 

[demiurge1138]

I think generic cephalapsid is fine, unless we also want to do a dire lamprey. Large and 5 HD?

 

[GrayLinnorm]

I think generic cephalapsid is fine, unless we also want to do a dire lamprey. Large and 5 HD?

The 1e Monster Manual has stats for a giant lamprey and I don't think it's been converted either, so why not?

 

[Shade]

Why not, indeed?

While we're add it, the hagfish is just begging to get the "giant D&D creature" treatment!

 

[demiurge1138]

Well, giant hagfish would be fun, but a hagfish swarm would be better. Especially since their feeding strategy involves burrowing into still-living animals and chewing their way out through the nutritious organs.

 

[Shade]

How delightfully disturbing!

 

[freyar]

So can we get the 1e giant lamprey stats?

 

[Shade]

1e MM version:

Lamprey, Giant
Freq: Rore
# App: 1-4
AC: 6
Move: 9"
HD: 5
% in lair: Nil
Treasure: Nil
Att: 1
Dmg: I-6
SA: Drain blood
SD: Nil
MR: Standard
Int: Non-
Alignment: Neutral
Size: M

Lompreys are leech-like eels which inhabit both fresh ond salt water: They
do not inhabit shallow bodies of water. They feed by biting their victims,
fastening themselves to the hapless creatures with sphincter-like mouths
ringed with cruel teeth. Once attached the lamprey will begin to drain
blood on the next and each successive melee round. The rate of blood
drain is equivalent to 2 hit points of damage per hit die the lamprey has.
Thus, o giant specimen will drain blood causing 10 hit points of damage
per melee round.

2e Monstrous Manual version:

Fish #AP AC MV HD THAC0 # of Att Dmg/Att Morale XP Value
Lamprey, Giant 1-4 6 Sw 9 5 15 1 1-6 Average (9) 270

The lamprey feeds by biting its victims, and fastening itself by its sphincter-like mouth. Once attached, the lamprey drains 2 hit points per Hit Die of blood on the next and successive rounds. Sea lampreys are especially susceptible to fire, making their saving throws against fire-based attacks with a -2 penalty.

 

[RavinRay]

A Medium animal (aquatic) with the Blood drain (Ex) ability that results in Con damage, as a baseline. What's the closest bloodsucker, and closest fish to compare it with?

 

[demiurge1138]

The dire eels in Stormwrack, for some reason, are blood drinkers.