cover, armor, no helmet, head shot

[Whoosier Daddy]

If my archer is attacking a enemy thats is behind a wall, and only his head is visible, so he has about 9/10 of cover. If he is using a chain mail, and has no dex bonus, his AC is 10 + 10(cover) + 5(armor)= 25. But he has no helmet or head protection, and the only place i can hit him is the head, should i ignore the armor bonus? If not,why?

 

[Umbran]

You do not ignore his armor bonus, because D&D 3E does not account for hit location. There is no such thing as a "head shot" in the rules. His armor counts as normal.

If this doesn't make sense - remember the pseudo-epic nature of Hit Points. You really can't hit a person in the head with an arrow and have him keep rolling as normal. But, that's what's supposed to happen. Imagine that the target throws himself to the side, and catches the arrow in a momentarily exposed shoulder, or somesuch.

 

[Whoosier Daddy]

LOL
It´s really doesn´t make any sense, its almost insane.
I don´t think about pseude-epic Hp or such.
I just accept that D20 has lots of flaws and inconsistences, but it is still a nice system and im always trying to fix it.

 

[Crothian]

specific hit locations are tough to do. To make it real, there needs to be good neaggtives to someone who just got an arm shoot, or a head shot. However, soon that is all characters try to do. And DMs so rarely make called shots against the PCs, so it becomes unfair. And with the mystical HP system D&D uses, hit location is that much tougher. THe way I say it is consider a critical hit, a hity at a specific location. This explains the added damge and you can add some other effect if you feel its warrented.

 

[Whoosier Daddy]

Damn it, sometimes i really hate D20 and D&D...
Looks like its a system for players that dont have the capacity to face REAL dangers, so they hide behind a system full of flaws, inconsistence and broken rules.
I dont consider any Character made by D&D a REAL Hero. Real life is much more harder and challenging, but of course its just my opinion...

 

[Crothian]

Or the system works as well as it's needed to be. It's a simple fix if you really need it.

And as a troll, that really wasn't good at all. A bunch of non supported thoughts does not a good troll make.

 

[dvvega]

There is nowhere that it says that armour has no helmet.

When people wear chainmail, they have a chain coif over their heads.

Leather armour, they have a cap or something similar.

Even a chain shirt wearer would be wearing some headwear.

So the armour bonus would remain.

If you want to use hit locations, the DMG has a very simply "called shot" variant that works within the d20 system.

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

Real life is much more harder and challenging, but of course its just my opinion...

Well, yeah. That's a big part of why we play D&D in the first place.

 

[Whoosier Daddy]

There is nowhere that it says that armour has no helmet.

When people wear chainmail, they have a chain coif over their heads.

Leather armour, they have a cap or something similar.

Even a chain shirt wearer would be wearing some headwear.

So the armour bonus would remain.

If you want to use hit locations, the DMG has a very simply "called shot" variant that works within the d20 system.

Wow, so a person that wears an armor, will always where a helm... its impossible to use an armor with out a helm, great deduction, how could i not think about it, thats so obvious... a typical answer from a roll player

Crothian, saying a parson is trolling is a very simple and non-intelligent argument. Im not trolling, just saying what a i think sometimes, if it bothers you, maybe something i said was truth...

 

[Whoosier Daddy]

I´m just trying to adjucate a situation that could happen. I will not eliminate this situation just because the system is limited and has no rules for it...
I just asked for your opinion, but it seems that is not only the system that is limited