Level Up (A5E) Create or destroy Water creates nonpotable water. Does purify food and drink make that water potable?

[Faolyn]

Purify food and drink says it removes disease and poison from Supply, but I don't know what makes the created water non-potable.

I'd be fine at saying yes, because you're spending two spell slots to make drinking water and that seems like a fair trade to me, but I'm interested in what other people think.

 

[xiphumor]

Your game, your call, but non-potable doesn’t necessarily mean poisoned or diseased. It could just be salt water.

 

[Davies]

Purify food and drink says it removes disease and poison from Supply, but I don't know what makes the created water non-potable.

I'd be fine at saying yes, because you're spending two spell slots to make drinking water and that seems like a fair trade to me, but I'm interested in what other people think.

I would say no on the basis that whatever is making the water non-potable -- salt, or possibly silt -- is not a poison or a disease, just a natural contaminant that makes the water dangerous to drink.

Semi-ninja'd.

 

[Morrus]

Supply is only created when something says it is.

 

[Micah Sweet]

It does seem that Supply and rules associated with it is one of those areas of the game where a little suspension of disbelief is needed. I'm ok with it.

 

[Faolyn]

Supply is only created when something says it is.

I agree, but there's a weird space. A deer or a rabbit isn't Supply, but I doubt you'd argue that it can't be turned into a few Supply. Likewise, create and destroy water doesn't create Supply but--like finding a well or river--you can potentially get Supply out of it. (I do wish there were some general rules as to how much Supply you can get out of an animal--I know there's Hunt & Gather but I wouldn't mind something a touch crunchier.)

If the created water is salt water or magically "dead," and that's why it's non-potable, that's perfectly cool--I'm not trying to use create water to get around Supply.

....Although I can see a rare version of purify water that does in fact desalinate salt water.

 

[xiphumor]

I agree, but there's a weird space. A deer or a rabbit isn't Supply, but I doubt you'd argue that it can't be turned into a few Supply. Likewise, create and destroy water doesn't create Supply but--like finding a well or river--you can potentially get Supply out of it. (I do wish there were some general rules as to how much Supply you can get out of an animal--I know there's Hunt & Gather but I wouldn't mind something a touch crunchier.)

If the created water is salt water or magically "dead," and that's why it's non-potable, that's perfectly cool--I'm not trying to use create water to get around Supply.

....Although I can see a rare version of purify water that does in fact desalinate salt water.

The A5e create or destroy water actually does have an option to create supply.

 

[Davies]

Basically, then, purify food and water is somewhat misnamed -- it should be called something like neutralize poison.

<grins, ducks and runs>

 

[Ondath]

The A5e create or destroy water actually does have an option to create supply.

Does it? Looking at the website, I can't seem to find it.

Create Food and Water does create Supply, though. I think we can try to extrapolate something from this. The design intent seems to have been that a 3rd-level spell could only get a day's Supply for 3 PCs. The problem with the create water + purify water combo is that purify food and water is a ritual spell - meaning it can be cast without expending any resources. So I don't think it's fair for a 1st-level spell and a 1st-level ritual to do half the work of a 3rd-level spell. If I were in a logistics-heavy game, I wouldn't allow it. But if I'm in a game where the players don't like fretting over Supplies, then this seems fine, but then I probably wouldn't be too stringent on securing Supplies in the first place.

 

[xiphumor]

Does it? Looking at the website, I can't seem to find it.

Check the book