Creation of an "Other Games" Forum?
- Thread starter Rasyr
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buzz
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Given the mass hatred of d20 over there, I tend to consider it such.Rasyr said:
And FWIW, they lump all RPG systems known to humanity in a snigle forum.You're misrepresenting these forums a bit. The D&D forum is not a general discussion forum; it's specifically a D&D rules Q&A forum. General discussion of D&D happens in General. The d20/OGL forum started life as a d20 Mdoern forum, beause there was demand for such a thing. When demand (i.e., traffic) died down, it transformed into a comprehensive d20/OGL forum.Rasyr said:
As Henry and others have already stated, a new forum will be created *in reaction to demand for one*. That's the point of online communities: they adapt instead of manage themselves top-down. I don't think it's the admins job to try and entice discussion of other systems by creating a forum for which there is yet no great demand. I think simply being open to discussion of any RPG in General and doing their usual awesome job of moderating is enough for now.
Also, maknig a section in the reviews area for non-d20 product and highlighting these reviews on the news page will itself send a signal to visitors that, yes, ENworld is place to discuss all games, even if it's primary focus is d20.
Heck, Rasyr. Encourage people to submit HARP reviews!
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Conaill said:
Because it is. The awards have nothing to do with this. There has been non d20 discussion on this boards well before the awards went with non d20. I've talked Buffy, Gurps, WoD, and Palladium here. I've seen Shadowrun and TORG discussions and there has been other I've missed.
I don't see why people keep dragging and reacting to the ENnies like this.
buzz said:
Actually, I think it is more *in reaction to need for one*. A demand - a want - is not sufficient. When the mods start seeing so many "other system" threads that they alone start making the General forum untenable, then you'll see a new forum created for it.
Psion said:
I would say that the "lie" to that notion is evident merely in seeing the overabundance of D20 bashing, and the double standard that is present in RPG.net.. namely that if you bash d20 and the people who like it you get a free pass for months or years, if you bash those who attack D20 or attack systems other than D20 you're out fast.
Not to mention the collective "head in the sand" (or up something less flattering than sand) syndrome; where you see people seriously talking about Ron Edwards as an "influential figure" in gaming, or of Tribe 8 or My Life with Master as "the best games", collectively pretending that these indie games and designers are known by anyone, and collectively ignoring the pre-eminence of D20 (when they aren't hatefully attacking it, that is).
Nisarg
Actually, I don't see much real d20 hatred as I see hatred of system zealots over on rpg.net. People who relentlessly bash other systems or other people who say something slightly less than pleasing (to the zealot) about their system, or to sing the praises of their flawless system. I think this is a case of a few bad apples ruining the whole bunch for a lot of people, and most of what vitriol there is usually comes from a very small group. And yes, each system has their haters and zealots, so you end up with a zealot going and bashing another zealots favorite system because they perceived an insult on another thread, and sometimes the hate circle kinda hetrodynes out of control...buzz said:Given the mass hatred of d20 over there, I tend to consider it such.
Heh. No system is perfect, not even HARP, and I wrote it! But I do think that HARP comes pretty close though.... heheh
That's right, it is a rules forum. I had forgotten. But there is still system segregation, in that you have the d20/OGL games in one forum (their own), and all other games go into the General forum, along with every other topic under the sun.buzz said:
If EN World is going to start doing reviews of other games and systems, then perhaps this is another reason why there should be a forum for Other Games. Thus it is in keeping with the idea of Other Reviews, and gives folks a place to talk about those reviews. By my way of thinking, not having a forum for Other Games, while having reviews of Other Games is kinda lopsided. Somebody may come to read the review, and then check the forums, and not see a place (clearly marked) in which to dicuss those reviews or those other games it might make them shy away from joining in on discussions. Having such a forum can help the EN World community grow as a whole.buzz said:
No, it is not the admins job to entice anybody to talk about anything, just to make sure folks don't get out of hand.
Yes, but the signals are mixed signals. To me, they are saying, we will review other games, but they are not important enough to warrant a forum to discuss them in.buzz said:
Hey! Joe Kushner has promised me another review of HARP now that the ENnies are over! He did a review back when it first came out, but since then HARP was revised (and we added 32 pages while keeping the price the same, AND offered folks who bought the first printing a $15 discount on ANY product from ICE to make up for the inconvenience of revising the game 6 weeks after it was released). So now all I have to do is to remind him of that promise hehe...buzz said:Heck, Rasyr. Encourage people to submit HARP reviews!
