Creative Exercise: The Sovereign Dominion of Eyros

Rhialto said:
A mysterious masked prophet has been raising havoc throughout the Empire, demonstrating eerie powers, and calling for Eyros's fall.
Is the masked prophet the same as Kampaetnos, the other mysterious prophet? Just wondering :)
 

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Sarellion said:
House Zhal is militaristic, too.
The pillars already have their own troops. They are used for province capital security. Officers for the legions in a province are from a different pillar than the political leadership of the province. This indicates that the Senate would mind if there were significant private armies. We also have a post discussing lobbying for an increase in Pillar forces when the Grand Monarch will step down but there aren´t many at the moment.

Government hegemony is enforced by the Praes Thanatos. I assume that this means they are the major enforcers of internal security and they don´t like losing power.
Surveillance for magical threats is done by the Arcaneum with Masks/Praes acting as troubleshooters.

Current military situation:
No war for generations, internal rebellion by the dwarves. The guardan maks were able to repel invasions (probably with help) during the war of the fallen pillar.

I think that Eyros doesn´t need most of his forces on the border.

What I was trying to address is a highly militaristic society that hasn't actually gone to war in several generations. This could be like Frederick of Prussia who loved his army so much he never thought of gettinmg it shot at, but that seems inconsistant with the setting background.

House Zhal (and perhaps a couple others) takes pride in its military service, but if even in House Zhal this is confined to those with room for real prestige, the ones in the middle could still see the army as a backwater (no chance for glory after all, no wars) to throw lesser children into to get them "out of the House" so to speak. Plus, if the other houses begin overusing exmeption by senatorial privilege, then the officer cadre of the army would wither.

I would think that it would be a rare "commoner" who could rise through the ranks on something as paltry as ability, particularly during an extended peacetime.

To clarify, I was not thinking of the pillars as generating their own additional armies, but landowners who are not part of the great houses or who are at best minor members. I am not thinking that these forces dominate areas on the scale of provinces, but on the scale of neighborhoods and small towns, with a system of minor fiefdoms evolving beneath the Great House system.

If the armies were not quartered near the borders (at the very least to sabre-rattle) then where would you put these large groups of boisterous, carousing, damaging to the civil peace individuals?

The Praes Thanatos would be looking at the Great Houses, especially as there is little to no magic in the villa/estate/town security forces.

Sarellion said:
The moon has an atmosphere, too or at least some sort of stuff that looks like fast growing forests.

Contribution: The features on the moon that appear as fast-growing forests can shrink as quickly. Starting two days after the features shrink dramatically, and lasts for 2-8 days after it begins, there is a time period in which necromantic magic is substantially more difficult and less effective. This effect on its own has led the Praes Thanatos to hire sages and astronomers to try a find a way to predict this, and to alert them when a fade occurs.
 

The Rukharn are nomadic orcs who trace their anestry to orcs who fell under the thralldom of the Valjin empire. After they got their freedom the tribe resumed his original way of life, herding Ngarafs on the wide plains. The Rukharn are a loyal subjects of the throne and members of their tribes often serve in the legions. They are considered to be the best riders in all of Eyros. Young members of the tribe often join the legion and the Imperial Guard, who watches the fortress of the Grand Monarch. In earlier times they were also the honor guard of the emperors themselves but this custom changed during the reign of Kormas the "Weak".
 

Harry- all that stuff Sarellion said wasn't just his opinion. Those are solid contributions that have already been stated (as has the mandatory military service for all non-nobles).
 

Sarellion said:
The Rukharn are nomadic orcs who trace their anestry to orcs who fell under the thralldom of the Valjin empire. After they got their freedom the tribe resumed his original way of life, herding Ngarafs on the wide plains. The Rukharn are a loyal subjects of the throne and members of their tribes often serve in the legions. They are considered to be the best riders in all of Eyros. Young members of the tribe often join the legion and the Imperial Guard, who watches the fortress of the Grand Monarch. In earlier times they were also the honor guard of the emperors themselves but this custom changed during the reign of Kormas the "Weak".

This was because of the ceremony accepting and empowering the Imperial Guard, which took place on the site of the battle of Har'ka, in which a unit of Rukharn horsemen fought their way to the side of the Emperor incurring great losses, when his personal forces were in danger of being cut off.

Kormas (different contradictory reasons are given in different sources) refused to leave Eyros, and quite possibly could not have performed the undemanding physical exertion involved in accepting the service of the Rukharn Horse Guard.

Kormas did institute several necessary reforms to the civil service, though.
 

Rystil Arden said:
Harry- all that stuff Sarellion said wasn't just his opinion. Those are solid contributions that have already been stated (as has the mandatory military service for all non-nobles).

Are you saying that you don't think any of my suggestion flies, or just the first two paragraphs, as listed in my last post?

Well, I was telling you what I was going for. The material from Sarellion was included for the specific reason that I was not countering anything Sarellion had written. Note also that I was speaking about a decline in military service among the noble classes. This would not counter mandatory service for *non-nobles*.


I do think that there should be some explanation of the militaristic, expansionist society whose borders have stayed quiet and stable for several decades.
 

Well, we didn´t talk about the expansions Eyros has made. They had a civil war some time ago, so could have lost something. They also had oposition from Ghalfaen and other nations so the current borders probably aren´t the one from 3000 years ago. The empire also was more a collection of states during the early reign until they closed their ranks against the Xalerian incursions.

I think that the whole contribution was well meant to adress a problem but it gets too much into established stuff.

BTW, the guard uses Warstriders like everyone else as horses are considered weak.

Well where should this Har´Ka be? Eyros borders on several different countries and I think that an emperor who doesn´t go into a a hostile country, when people would expect that should be named the wise.
Bordering nations:
Indracca: hostile
Nistadeen: hostile
Kwlloch: hostile
Ghalfaen: Protectorate, under control and safe. It is also uses fluent sounding names

Either way, Har´ka would end up in eyrian territory as a ruler who would enter another not so friendly country would need to conquer this territory first.

My proposal: how about contributing for a territory that is not fleshed out as much as Eyros. You are relatively new and there is much that has been written about Eyros itself.
We have Indracca, a western continent with only one post, possible nations on the Xalerian homeland. You also know more about astronomy. We could need some planets and constellations.
 
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Sarellion said:
Well, we didn´t talk about the expansions Eyros has made. They had a civil war some time ago, so could have lost something.

BTW, the guard uses Warstriders like everyone else as horses are considered weak.

My bad, I even had this in my head as I constructed this.

Well where should this Har´Ka be? Eyros borders on several different countries and I think that an emperor who doesn´t go into a a hostile country, when people would expect that should be named the wise.
Bordering nations:
Indracca: hostile
Nistadeen: hostile
Kwlloch: hostile
Ghalfaen: Protectorate, under control and safe. It is also uses fluent sounding names

Either way, Har´ka would end up in eyrian territory as a ruler who would enter another not so friendly country would need to conquer this territory first.

My proposal: how about contributing for a territory that is not fleshed out as much as Eyros. You are relatively new and there is much that has been written about Eyros itself.
We have Indracca, a western continent with only one post, possible nations on the Xalerian homeland. You also know more about astronomy. We could need some planets and constellations.

My initial thought was that it could have occured during the civil war and thus inside Eyros(hence the sound of the title) and would account for the recognition given the Rukharn Light Warstriders, since it would serve to bind the Rukharn more closely to the legitimate emperor, but I thought I'd leave this out in case someone else had a better idea.

I could easily toss in some astronomy, but it ends up going (forgive the term) "cosmic", and it seemed like the most pressing needs would be to fill in the gaps at the smallest, most mundane levels (hence describing trends among gangs and clans at sizes well below the Great Houses).

Julius and Augustus Caesar renamed months after themselves. What if Imperial Astronomers redrew constellations for great Emperors? (Perhaps less noteworthy Emperors only got stars named after themselves). For example, Vekkar the Farseeing paid for great expeditions to explore the seas around Eyros, to seek out markets and possible threats, but he didn't get involved in a major land war. For this reason, the northern Pole Star (there is one for both the northern & southern hemisphere) is named "Vekkar".

It is an odd quirk of human nature that people are resistant to changing the names of places or stars/constellations. Consider the Biblical constellations that failed to replace the classicla ones in the late Middle Ages/Renaisannce, or St. Petersburg/Leningrad/St. Petersburg, or Cape Canaveral/Cape Kennedy/Kennedy Space Center at Cape Canaveral. This "seizure" of the constellations would also be an act of cutural imperalism against internal groups to conform to the common culture.
 


Well I thought that Kormas made concessions to the houses in regards to his personal guard, but I forgot to write it down.

There was no Grand Monarch during the civil war as the monarch and his successor were slain just before the war. that was more or les the reason of the war
 

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