Creature Catalogue Overhaul Project Revisited

[Cleon]

OK, so we are dropping Superior Init? I can go for the suggested good maneuverability, Wingover, Imp Crit (bite) and (claw). I think we also agreed on Combat Reflexes, Combat Expertise, and Superior Expertise, and I think that may just do it.

Superior Initiative just seems too much of a good thing, but if we have a spare feat left over after getting the rest of the proposed feats I guess we could add it in.

There's nothing in the original text to suggest her initiative is so much better than her sibling Animal Lords. (Hmm, sibling is the wrong word - Animal Lord colleagues?).

 

[Shade]

I'm not bothered one way or another by an even higher initiative.

 

[Cleon]

I'm not bothered one way or another by an even higher initiative.

Very well. As I wrote earlier if we have a spare feat I don't mind adding Superior Initiative if we can think of nothing better for her.

 

[freyar]

I believe that we don't need Sup Init anymore, but someone else should double check we've filled all the feat slots already.

 

[Cleon]

I believe that we don't need Sup Init anymore, but someone else should double check we've filled all the feat slots already.

Oh, Shade likes doing fiddly stuff like that.

We had 6 feats left over, which we've filled with Wingover, Imp Crit (bite) and (claw), Combat Reflexes, Combat Expertise, and Superior Expertise.

Updating the Working Draft.

 

[freyar]

OK, then. Skills: Bluff, Concentration, Diplomacy, Gather Information, Hide, Intimidate, Listen, Move Silently, Sense Motive, Spot, Tumble, Use Magic Device ?

 

[Cleon]

OK, then. Skills: Bluff, Concentration, Diplomacy, Gather Information, Hide, Intimidate, Listen, Move Silently, Sense Motive, Spot, Tumble, Use Magic Device ?

Since she's the outer plane guardian of animals, I'm thinking Knowledge (nature), Knowledge (the planes) and possibly Survival might be in order.

We could easily swap out a couple of those - Gather Information, Intimidate and Sense Motive seem the most surplus to requirements.

Also, she probably doesn't need maxed-out Concentration - once she's got the modifier high enough to beat the Casting Defensively level she's unlikely to need anything higher.

How about ranks of Concentration 20, Knowledge (nature) 20, Knowledge (the planes) 20 and Survival 20 instead of Gather Information and Intimidate?

Alternatively, we could go Concentration 20, Knowledge (nature) 40, Knowledge (the planes) 40 and Survival 20 instead of Gather Information, Intimidate and Sense Motive, but I prefer the first alteration.

 

[Shade]

I prefer the first alteration as well.

 

[Cleon]

I prefer the first alteration as well.

That still leaves us 40 skill ranks though.

How about adding Search, for the following Skill Ranks:

Bluff 40, Concentration 20, Diplomacy 40, Knowledge (nature) 20, Knowledge (the planes) 20, Hide 40, Listen 40, Move Silently 40, Sense Motive 40, Search 40, Spot 40, Survival 20, Tumble 40, Use Magic Device 40

 

[freyar]

That'll work for me.