Crits and Sneak Attack/Quarry Dice..?

[Shaker]

Sorry if this has been asked before or is clear somewhere, but we had a disagreement at the table - do sneak attack/quarry dice get maxed out on a crit as well?

 

[lestat2099]

No, you roll the dice of the extra damage.

See: "Critical Hits" on page 278 of the Player's Handbook

 

[Usumcasane]

Sorry if this has been asked before or is clear somewhere, but we had a disagreement at the table - do sneak attack/quarry dice get maxed out on a crit as well?

Yes. The only damage you roll is extra damage that you get ONLY BECAUSE you scored a critical (i.e. High Crit weapons and weapon/implement crit properties).

 

[the8bitdeity]

No, you roll the dice of the extra damage.

See: "Critical Hits" on page 278 of the Player's Handbook

This is incorrect. The only dice that are rolled on critical hit are dice DEPENDENT on the crit.

For example: (but not limited to)

• Magic Weapon's Crit Property
• High Crit Weapons

 

[mneme]

Also, you pretty clearly roll the sneak attack damage from (insert the name of the weapon enhancement that lets it do sneak attack on a crit here) -- as the sneak attack is only being added because of the crit.

 

[Saeviomagy]

To sum up:

You MAX
[W] damage, except any [W] damage that only occurs on a crit, like high crit.
any damage that says "add XdY damage to the attack" or "the attack deals XdY extra damage".

You don't max
[W] damage that occurs only on a crit.
any damage that says "once per day when you hit, deal XdY damage to the target" (like fiery weapon for instance).
Other damage that only applies on a crit (like the paragon feat that applies 1d10 damage on a crit).
Any ongoing dice of damage.
Any other form of damage that says "when you crit...".

 

[Ryujin]

ANY damage dice that you would roll for a normal attack including things like Warlock's Curse, Hunter's Quarry, and Sneak Attack is maximized. Damage dice that are dependant upon obtaining a critical hit such as bonus dice from a magical weapon, or feats like Devastating Critical are rolled.

 

[GorTeX]

To sum up:

You MAX
[W] damage, except any [W] damage that only occurs on a crit, like high crit.
any damage that says "add XdY damage to the attack" or "the attack deals XdY extra damage".

You don't max
[W] damage that occurs only on a crit.
any damage that says "once per day when you hit, deal XdY damage to the target" (like fiery weapon for instance).
Other damage that only applies on a crit (like the paragon feat that applies 1d10 damage on a crit).
Any ongoing dice of damage.
Any other form of damage that says "when you crit...".

hmm, this: "any damage that says "once per day when you hit, deal XdY damage to the target" (like fiery weapon for instance)." is maxed

if it said, "once per day when you crit, deal Xd6 damage" then it would not be maxed.

The key thing to remember is this: Could you apply the damage if you did not roll a crit? If the answer is yes, then the roll is maximized. If you cannot apply the damage unless you roll a crit, then that damage is not maxed.

 

[Klaus]

Sorry if this has been asked before or is clear somewhere, but we had a disagreement at the table - do sneak attack/quarry dice get maxed out on a crit as well?

So, back to the OP:

Sneak Attack, Hunter's Quarry, Warlock's Curse are all maximized if you score a critical hit against the proper target.

If you roll a crit and decide to use a weapon's daily power that lets you add +1dx damage (like, say, a Frost weapon), that damage is also maximized.

You don't maximize extra damage that only occur because you rolled a crit (the extra 2d6 cold damage of a +2 frost weapon, or the extra 1[W] of a high-crit weapon).

 

[Shaker]

Thanks everyone - been lurking for a little bit and very much appreciate everyone's insight on this forum!