Curious about Ruthless Ruffian

[Ibixat]

Well, Ruthless Ruffian also empowers rogue powers with the Ruthless Ruffian entry.... which happens to be a lot of Rattling powers... which you'll take because you're Ruthless Ruffian. It's not merely the +Str that sells the Ruthless Ruffian.

Let's face it, an Assassin's Point doing 17d8 damage on a hit is not a hard sell.

ok I'm lazy, how do you get 17d8? because yeah, that sounds badass

guessing a 2d8 weapon ? and 7x so 14, but wouldn't you be getting 4d8 sneak attack ?

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

I don't think Rogues benefit from having such a narrowly restricted "flavor". And actually, Wizards can use Greatswords, about as well as they can use most swords, which is to say "not very".

Same with most rogue and maces.

For wizard, ruthless ruffian would be the equivalent of a new wizard class feature allowing him to use a longsword as an implement from level 1 and use his intelligence for basic attack.

For rogues, mace isn't a typical weapon at all just like the swords and the wizard don't normally mix. Ruthless ruffian makes the mace a rogue weapon. It's pretty much the heart of that new option so I don't see why it should be opened to others.

 

[Drakhar]

For wizard, ruthless ruffian would be the equivalent of a new wizard class feature allowing him to use a longsword as an implement from level 1 and use his intelligence for basic attack.

Didn't they call that a Swordmage?

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

Didn't they call that a Swordmage?

When the swordmage will cast fireballs, then yes. Until then, no.

But that's not the point of the thread, is it?

 

[Drakhar]

1st of all it was a joke, secondly Class Acts: Swordmage gives them Inciendiary Sword, which is pretty much Fireball as an encounter power for less damage with additional effects.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with letting other types of rogues use clubs/maces, mostly because I don't see a problem with giving them more options.

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

Personally I don't see anything wrong with letting other types of rogues use clubs/maces, mostly because I don't see a problem with giving them more options.

Which is what the option of taking ruthless ruffian does.