D&D and the rising pandemic

[Umbran]

In parts of the research world where postdoc work is common, it's not uncommon for PhDs to earn similar amounts. For them, at least, it's generally considered to be part of their education. Still kinda hard for some of the serious academics to live through, though.

And now you see one of the major reasons Ieft academia.

 

[Zardnaar]

Academia often doesn't pay that well, you get paid for your passion really. A lot of art degrees for example.

$15 an hour you get more than that picking fruit here it's close to minimum wage.

There's some well paying jobs out there not requiring degrees most people just don't think about them or think they're below them.

Joke in the 90s was the dumb ones went to university. Outside of a few degrees it's not much of a joke assuming you had some sort of plan.

To many art, accounting, law degrees not enough tradesmen's, STEM of engineers.

American expat friend bureaucrat got salty when his friend driving forklift got 50% more than he did or his wage was what I got 15 years ago in a factory.

 

[NotAYakk]

A problem with trades is that they are very physical jobs. And when you are 50 years old, the physical part of the job is much harder than when you where 20. Meanwhile, desk jobs might kill you (from sitting down and not moving enough), but when your body starts to suck you can still do them.

 

[Garthanos]

To many art, accounting, law degrees not enough tradesmen's, STEM of engineers.

I did my degree in the 80s before things got naughty word ton expensive, Computer Science major with minor in Art and Physics and I am now a Software Engineer/Developer. I could have probably gotten an Math major and another minor with very little effort.

 

[Zardnaar]

I did my degree in the 80s before things got naughty word ton expensive, Computer Science major with minor in Art and Physics and I am now a Software Engineer/Developer. I could have probably gotten an Math major and another minor with very little effort.

It was free back then caveat being harder to get into.

I did an art degree waste of money oops. Another guy I knew assaulted a teacher, got expelled now a multi millionaire go figure.

It's still cheap/easy here but there's only around 8/10 degrees worth much otherwise might be better off not going.

We've ended up with a heap of educated people who are intelligent but haven't quite figured out their degree isn't worth anything in the real world.

Best ones are various engineering degrees followed by the usual suspects (medicine, some STEM etc).

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I did my degree in the 80s before things got naughty word ton expensive, Computer Science major with minor in Art and Physics and I am now a Software Engineer/Developer. I could have probably gotten an Math major and another minor with very little effort.

When I got my undergraduate degree, I was just 3 classes short of 2 bachelor. As it was, I had 2 majors and had a whole bunch of minors.

ummmm...

 

[Istbor]

When I got my undergraduate degree, I was just 3 classes short of 2 bachelor. As it was, I had 2 majors and had a whole bunch of minors.

ummmm...

Yep. Two Bachelors and one associate degree myself. Not really using one of those Bachelors or the associate. :S

 

[Hussar]

Yeah, if I had to do it over again, I would have gone to trade school and not bothered with uni. Complete waste of money that I was pretty much required to do because of education inflation (particularly in Canada where some 85-90% of people hold some sort of post secondary education). Bank tellers in Canada require a degree. Heck, my brother was recruiting for the Canadian Forces and they pretty much required a degree before you could enlist. Everyone else got stuck on year long waiting lists to maybe get a position in one opened up.

It is pretty frustrating.

 

[Garthanos]

Yeah, if I had to do it over again, I would have gone to trade school and not bothered with uni. Complete waste of money that I was pretty much required to do because of education inflation (particularly in Canada where some 85-90% of people hold some sort of post secondary education). Bank tellers in Canada require a degree. Heck, my brother was recruiting for the Canadian Forces and they pretty much required a degree before you could enlist. Everyone else got stuck on year long waiting lists to maybe get a position in one opened up.

It is pretty frustrating.

I think education is bigger than getting a job. That said I want more jobs to require a degree like for instance the police force ... instead of highschool grads with guns require a degree and provide appropriate undergrad course lists college level psychology and law etc. Personally I would do my education over again I would do biology and genetics because it seems awesome.

 

[Zardnaar]

Yeah, if I had to do it over again, I would have gone to trade school and not bothered with uni. Complete waste of money that I was pretty much required to do because of education inflation (particularly in Canada where some 85-90% of people hold some sort of post secondary education). Bank tellers in Canada require a degree. Heck, my brother was recruiting for the Canadian Forces and they pretty much required a degree before you could enlist. Everyone else got stuck on year long waiting lists to maybe get a position in one opened up.

It is pretty frustrating.

Yeah in hindsight I'm thinking the same. Trade school. Or military/police.

Used to game with an Australian. He got one of the last great contracts.

Joined army at 18, ended up on 6 figures, did his 20 years retired at 38 collecting pension at 80% of his wages.

Spends his time playing video games and building pizza ovens and enjoying time with his wife.