But a 30% gap across the board would have gotten us to a point near herd immunity…for the earliest strains of the virus.
With the transmissibility of Delta? Yeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh…
D&D and the rising pandemic
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With the transmissibility of Delta? Yeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh…
You do realize that this is hypothetical? The law, regulation, or order to enact this does not currently exist. So there's no real telling what the consequences might be.
In the landmark case in 1904, there was a fine for not getting vaccinated. "You refuse to do what's necessary to support public health, so we will take money to help pay for the repercussions of your thick-headedness," seems appropriate.
"Sanctuary" status or protests mean very little if the Federal government wants to tax you for not being vaccinated.
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More importantly, I don't think that there will be government-level mandatory vaccinations.
Instead, you will just see continuing "ratcheting up" of the pressure from private parties and regulation to get vaccinated.
On the regulation side, you have NYC just mandating vaccines for indoor restaurants, gyms, and performances (plays, concerts, etc.).
On the private side, you have increasing numbers of employers and venues requires vaccination.
At a certain point, if you want to participate in public life in many states, you will need to be vaccinated- I am sure that universities and schools will have those requirements, you will need it to travel, and so on.
...of course, given polarization, it may be that you will have certain states (FLORIDA MAN RUNS ON METH, NOT MASKS) that push back and pass laws that try to prevent private requirements for masking and vaccination.
Ugh. If someone had said, one year ago, "Hey, there are going to be widely available vaccines for every single person in the US for COVID." I would have been overcome with joy (and, admittedly, somewhat shocked). But if they had told me, "But the problem will be that people will refuse to take them, so COVID will just keep comin' back" I might have cried.
....and schools are starting up. And this is the summer. So very tired of this.
Thomas Shey
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Do you actually have enough of a supply to make that work? Even if you could convince everyone in the U.S., we don't have close to enough of those.
I agree. Federal mandates for vaccination aren't coming soon. We might see greater federal pressure after, say a million people have died.
Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
All that's ever been claimed by the experts, though, is that masks need to be worn because they help reduce transmission by a lot. Perfection hasn't been claimed.
Yes, but this discussion was about a particular individual person getting covid. And since a normal cloth mask isn't foolproof, the hospital official claiming surety that the issue wasn't PPE failure is dubious...
Unless that hospital's protocols included using (K)N-95 masks, which are a lot better than standard cloth. I wouldn't find it implausible that the odds of ocular transmission were higher than it getting through an N-95....
Ryujin
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As with other things, it does become a bit of an issue if local government isn't onboard. They simply don't have enough law enforcement at the Federal level to enforce edicts in every city and town, so it effectively becomes moribund.
The IRS is extremely adept at getting at your money without any need of involvement from local law enforcement.
Not that federal mandates are likely any time soon, but there are ways to implement them without needing to get into physical policing.
Ryujin
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the IRS has the advantage of being much like Rome; all roads lead to it.
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