D&D and the rising pandemic

[Dannyalcatraz]

A local hospital organization has developed a new Covid vaccine using older technology & methods with similar efficacy results to the mRNA vaccines. They make a big deal about how it fares against delta, but there’s no mention of omicron. However, the point of this vaccine is that it is capable of being manufactured anywhere in the world…and they’re distributing the details on how to do this for free. This should accelerate the ability of the more impoverished nations to fight Covid like a NOX fuel injection. That translates into a potential reduction in the number of unvaccinated people around in the world, slowing COVID’s mutation rate.

https://www.texaschildrens.org/texas-children’s-hospital-and-baylor-college-medicine-covid-19-vaccine-technology-secures-emergency

 

[Imaculata]

That is a great new development. A lot of rich countries have neglected their duties to provide vaccines to more impoverished nations, while their citizens happily go on vacation without a care in the world to those same nations.

 

[Ryujin]

A local hospital organization has developed a new Covid vaccine using older technology & methods with similar efficacy results to the mRNA vaccines. They make a big deal about how it fares against delta, but there’s no mention of omicron. However, the point of this vaccine is that it is capable of being manufactured anywhere in the world…and they’re distributing the details on how to do this for free. This should accelerate the ability of the more impoverished nations to fight Covid like a NOX fuel injection. That translates into a potential reduction in the number of unvaccinated people around in the world, slowing COVID’s mutation rate.

https://www.texaschildrens.org/texas-children’s-hospital-and-baylor-college-medicine-covid-19-vaccine-technology-secures-emergency

One of the principals of that project is a regular on CNN. I just saw him interviewed about this. Great news.

 

[Umbran]

That is a great new development. A lot of rich countries have neglected their duties to provide vaccines to more impoverished nations, while their citizens happily go on vacation without a care in the world to those same nations.

You won't get people to do things by calling it their "duty". It is really easy to reject moral commitments other people try to lay on you.

I mean, we can't get people to wear masks my appealing to their moral duty to other citizens. You think you can shame them into giving up money for people in another country? That's just not going to happen.

 

[Mannahnin]

You won't get people to do things by calling it their "duty". It is really easy to reject moral commitments other people try to lay on you.

I mean, we can't get people to wear masks my appealing to their moral duty to other citizens. You think you can shame them into giving up money for people in another country? That's just not going to happen.

People have also made the self-interest/efficacy argument. Making sure poorer countries are also well-supplied with vaccines helps bring the pandemic as a whole to an end sooner globally, and reduces the scope of opportunity for mutations that threaten us all.

 

[Umbran]

People have also made the self-interest/efficacy argument. Making sure poorer countries are also well-supplied with vaccines helps bring the pandemic as a whole to an end sooner globally, and reduces the scope of opportunity for mutations that threaten us all.

Enlightened self interest is the more powerful argument to those who actually matter in making the decisions, yes. But they also aren't reading EN World, so...

 

[Ryujin]

Then there are the "pull themselves up by their own bootstraps" crowd who would never do anything to help anyone else, enlightened self-interest or no.

 

[Thomas Shey]

People have also made the self-interest/efficacy argument. Making sure poorer countries are also well-supplied with vaccines helps bring the pandemic as a whole to an end sooner globally, and reduces the scope of opportunity for mutations that threaten us all.

The problem is this is too abstract an argument for most people.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

There’s a host of reasons why- the abstraction of the issue, a lack of empathy, a “sticking it to” the other, paranoia and distrust, etc.- certain nations or regions haven’t responded as logically as they should have to the Covid pandemic.

…precious few of which are new.

I suspect that the epidemiologists who early on predicted the USA had gone from best prepared to most likely to screw up their pandemic response were thinking of several of those factors.

 

[Umbran]

The problem is this is too abstract an argument for most people.

Most people are, thankfully, irrelevant to the issue. They do not influence the decisions in a meaningful way.