D&D Armageddon - Blood Wars End, Sigil Falls to Seige

[Chauzu]

Thanks for the info Shem.

Now I know how I can make this work for my own campaign setting, but hmmm... this is a toughy, but there's gotta be a way to make this work without that mine in mind. Now I have to actually THINK.

 

[Valiantheart]

My question is with a entity as enigmatic and secretive as the Lady of Pain, whos to say she wouldnt open the gates or simply not care that the demons and devils invade.

Or perhaps the Lady was one of the original Primal forces in the Universe and the consort of Asmodeus before he fell into the 9 Hells. If he ascended once again she might go to rejoin him.

Perhaps the Lady just goes "missing" on the day the Blood War ends (aka another portent of things to come). No one knows where she disappeared to or why.

 

[Shemeska]

Perhaps the Lady just goes "missing" on the day the Blood War ends (aka another portent of things to come). No one knows where she disappeared to or why.

Oh indeed... The Lady is generally regarded as true neutral, if not beyond the general idea of morality at all. She does what must be done to protect Sigil regardless of the moral aspect or fallout of any of her actions. I could honestly see her flaying or mazing ever sodding berk in Sigil in order to further some other goal beyond typical mortal comprehension. The PC's step from the Gatetown of Torch into Sigil and find the city dead and empty, silent but for the Dabus servants of The Lady going about their tasks of upkeep. When asked where the entire population of Sigil is, the Dabus simply reply with a rebus symbol of The Lady, complete with blank pitiliess gaze and bladed headdress, and nothing more...

It's very possible to give The Lady a significantly darker aspect and interpretation than She normally gets as a benign and uncaring protector. For instance, The Lady might be more prisoner than ruler of Sigil. The Lady might simply be the projected aspect and avatar of a greater being locked away from the multiverse for a reason. The Lady of Pain as, for example, a Lovecraft-esque lurker on the doorstep, so to speak. After all, any bound space in Sigil can be a portal with the right key, and the entirety of Sigil is built on the inside rim of a giant open toroid. What if that shape itself, that bound space is a portal in and of itself? And where might it lead if unlocked and opened? *grin*

There's lots of ways that you could deal with The Lady aside from the norm, after all, our way of perceiving her is based on maybe 20,000 years of history, if that much. That's nothing in the timescale of such beings. We might just not have a broad enough scope of time to sit back and look upon to garner a meaningful idea of Her Serenity's true motivations.

 

[Leopold]

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[Calico_Jack73]

The Abyss really is the inifinite plane. There are so many demons in the abyss that you could wipe out every inhabitant in Sigil with ease. Then after that it would just be sheer numbers that would keep anyone from being insane enough to take a portal TO Sigil.

I kind of disagree. The Abyss may be infinite but the number of demons is not. If they were then they would have overrun the Nine Hells long ago.

 

[Calico_Jack73]

Paka... I have the solution to your Lady of Pain problem. Look in the Artifacts section of the Psionics Handbook. Now look at the Annulus artifact. It is an artifact that has the ability to DESTROY A GOD though it will infact be destroyed in the process. Perhaps one Archfiend or the other got the Annulus and used it on the Lady of Pain. That would be the end of her... end of discussion.

 

[Paka]

Paka... I have the solution to your Lady of Pain problem.

I don't see it as a problem.

For me, this thread isn't about the amount of Devil infantry or how powerful the Lady of Pain is but about taking the mythology of D&D (and it really is its own mythology now) and rocking it, with the PC's leaving it different from how they found it. I want my players to know that nothing is safe, nothing is sacred except for a rockin' story that will make them sweat and force their characters to be the greatest heroes or the vilest villains that ever graced a character sheet.

Thanks for the thoughts, though.

Appreciated.

 

[Calico_Jack73]

There was also an Artifact item in Ravenloft for 2nd edition known as the Rift Spanner that allowed someone using it to escape Ravenloft. Now, if it can defy the Dark Powers and breech Ravenlofts borders perhaps it can breech the borders of Sigil. Sure, the Lady of Pain can keep the gods out but the Dark Powers can keep a god in as well. What if the Rift Spanner was retreived from Ravenloft and used in the siege on Sigil?

 

[Paka]

What if the Rift Spanner was retreived from Ravenloft and used in the siege on Sigil?

Have fun. The ideas is out on the boards and is therefor yours, do with it what ye will.

 

[Calico_Jack73]

I want my players to know that nothing is safe, nothing is sacred except for a rockin' story that will make them sweat and force their characters to be the greatest heroes or the vilest villains that ever graced a character sheet. Appreciated.

Yeah but I can just imagine the party finding out about the plan ahead of time to use the Annulus on the Lady of Pain and getting to Sigil too late to save her but just in time to see her bathed in the power of the Annulus, her very essense being destroyed in the attack. As soon as she was destroyed they'd then be witness to the portals being flung open and the army of fiends pouring through slaughtering anyone in their way.