D&D 5E D&D Beyond: Tieflings

[gyor]

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Mike Mearls mind of messes things up, there are already examples in 5e of none infernal Tieflings being referred to as Tieflings, and Planetouched includes all Tieflings, Aasimar, Genasi, maybe weirder stuff.

 

[Charlaquin]

It’s also interesting how he starts to go into the meta-narrative reason for the change (4th Edition Tieflings were specifically connected to devils and Tieflings were included in the 5e PHB pretty specifically to appeal to us 4e fans. Same thing happened with Dragonborn being connected to Bahamut). But then he kind of stops himself. Weird.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

Restricting it down to infernal heritage is one of the reasons why I've been so against the 4e Tiefling. I really liked them when they first came out in 2e, and were the Planetouched that were specifically Fiendish in general. Yes they generally do mean Devil Child derived from the German words TeufelLing.

I do hope that 5e brings back all the Planetouched, they sort of with the Aasimar in Volo's Guide and the Genasi in that Elemental supplement, but they should bring back the rest of the Tiefling or whatever they name the rest of the Fiendish Planetouched if they are going they really want to stick to Tieflings are specifically the Infernal Planetouched, and a consolidation of various other Planetouched that could be traced to origins like Lawful (Axani, Mechanitrix, Zenythri), Chaotic (Chaond, Cansin), Shadow (Shades? Shadar-Kai? Shadowshyfts), Ethereal (Shyft), Fey (Feytouched, OA's Spirit Folk), and Other Elemental (Ice/Magma/Whatever Genasi) that have popped up in previous editions.

 

[SkidAce]

Wonder why these articles are not on the main D&D pages?

 

[gyor]

The SCAG does kind of point out to none Infernal Tieflings. In FR specifically arguably not all Tieflings we're Planetouched, many we're descended from evil deities like Besheba, Lovstivar, Bane, ect..., but especially the evil Mulan Gods like Set, Sebek, Ianna, Nerull, and others. Just as Good deities produced Aasimar.

In fact the Hosts of the Evil Mulhorand Gods ARE Tieflings, Aasimar are the Hosts of the Good Mulhorand deities.

It's why Tieflings are treated with respect in Mulhorand compared to the rest of the realms.

 

[gyor]

Just a weird thought but given how Mike Mearls takes about Planetouched could they be a separate race they have planned?

 

[Charlaquin]

Restricting it down to infernal heritage is one of the reasons why I've been so against the 4e Tiefling. I really liked them when they first came out in 2e, and were the Planetouched that were specifically Fiendish in general. Yes they generally do mean Devil Child derived from the German words TeufelLing.

It made sense in 4e because of their specific origin within the points of light setting, where all Tieflings were specifically the descendants of the Bael Turath noble bloodlines. It doesn’t make sense outside of the points of light setting though.

I do hope that 5e brings back all the Planetouched, they sort of with the Aasimar in Volo's Guide and the Genasi in that Elemental supplement, but they should bring back the rest of the Tiefling or whatever they name the rest of the Fiendish Planetouched if they are going they really want to stick to Tieflings are specifically the Infernal Planetouched,

I’m pretty sure Mearls was just wrong about Tieflings only being infernal in 5e. There was an Unearthed Arcana that included an abyssal tiefling subrace, and SCAG brought the idea into a published product via the variant Tiefling options. It seems to just be that the default PHB Tieflings are specifically infernal, with other fiendish planetouched being variants to the template, but still falling under the Tiefling umbrella.

and a consolidation of various other Planetouched that could be traced to origins like Lawful (Axani, Mechanitrix, Zenythri), Chaotic (Chaond, Cansin), Shadow (Shades? Shadar-Kai? Shadowshyfts), Ethereal (Shyft), Fey (Feytouched, OA's Spirit Folk), and Other Elemental (Ice/Magma/Whatever Genasi) that have popped up in previous editions.

It might actually be kind of cool to have a general planetouched race, with specific planar origins as subraces.

 

[Yaarel]

I see the Kalashtar of Eberron as a kind of Planetouched.

The Kalashtar could even be an Eberron-esque Awsimar.

 

[Sunseeker]

I'd like to see a little more diversity among the planetouched....but lets not get as crazy with it as earlier editions.

I think the model we already have for racial variants is good with 3 tops.

 

[Parmandur]

Just a weird thought but given how Mike Mearls takes about Planetouched could they be a separate race they have planned?

It wouldn't surprise me, he does seem to imply they are going to bring back the "cosmic mutt" concept into the game separate from Tieflings.

While SCAG had some ideas, and they tested an Abyssal Tieflings in UA, the main material has assumed Infernal heritage, and the recent Tieflings tests doubled down on that theme.

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