D&D movie sequel update.

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I'm not tired of Paris Hilton.

"Tired of" implies that there was one point in time where I didn't hate her with a screaming passion. But I always have, from the first day I learned who she was.

I cannot think of anyone in the spotlight these days who is less deserving of either her fame or fortune. I would be delighted--and no, I'm not kidding--to see her rendered bankrupt and unemployed.

*shudder*

I´d recommend to immediately stop talking (writing) about this ... person. You´re giving her too much attention... And I believe it isn´t good for your heat to enrage about it

Back to topic:
The first movie was not good, I agree, but from a D&D gamer´s perspective, it had its merit. You could see most D&D rules & creatures in action. From an artistic perspective, it probably sucked

 

[Turanil]

I bet that even if the new D&D movie is as bad as the first, and it still features this odious actress, most of us will rush to buy the DVD as soon as it is released. I know that I will do anyway, even if having for only expectation to be screaming of rage seeing the crap they will have done with it.

 

[Ranger REG]

I bet that even if the new D&D movie is as bad as the first, and it still features this odious actress, most of us will rush to buy the DVD as soon as it is released.

Not I.

 

[Ranger REG]

can't say I saw that one... was that a Disney movie from a while back that was panned far and wide by critics?

Not sure. But it was an adaptation of Treasure Island, which Disney did a live-action movie way back when.

 

[Fast Learner]

Treasure Planet was not panned far and wide. It was liked by 3/4 of the critics that are statistically added at Rotten Tomatoes: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/treasure_planet/

I thought it was pretty good, and definitely fits the genre.

 

[barsoomcore]

Not a troll. Someone with occasionally (but not always) unpopular attitudes towards popular culture.

For example, I don't have any particular hate on for Paris Hilton. I think she's remarkably unattractive for a woman who gets her picture published so often, and I don't really understand why that happens but I don't know a blessed thing about her other than she's really rich and parties a lot. As far as I know she doesn't steal money, kidnap children or beat women, so she's ahead of a good portion of the human race, at any rate. So whatever. Save your hate for people who are bad, for crying out loud. There's no shortage of them, that's for sure.

And I still liked D&D better than Pirates. D&D was very much like a movie I would have made if somebody had asked me to make a D&D movie fifteen years ago. Nowadays I'd like to think I'd come up with something a little more interesting, but in my twenties I think I'd have come up with something pretty much like that. It was very much what my campaigns were like in those days, which is something I really liked about it. It was certainly made by somebody who'd played a lot of D&D and wanted to get that experience on screen.

They failed, no question. I'm not saying it ISN'T a bad movie. It's horrendous. But at least it gives the impression of having been made with love and imagination. And I'm fond of it for that reason. People are WAY too hard on it -- in a world where cynical crap like Conan The Destroyer and Pirates of the Caribbean get trumpeted as "fun", that an honest, uncomplicated (if pretty stupid and badly made) movie gets savaged with such violence strikes me as very unfair.

If it had been called The Dragon's Staff people would be putting it up with Beastmaster or The Sword and the Sorcerer, which is where it belongs (I don't think it's quite as good as either, but it's better than Krull, at least). It's just a cheesy fantasy movie, not out of line for that genre in terms of production value, acting ability, screenplay or direction. It's got some good stunts, okay swordfights, funny moments, charming leads, creepy (if spectacularly goofy (I'm looking at YOU, Jeremy)) bad guys, a few monsters and great big aerial dragon battle with explosions and everything.

It's just not that bad. Yes there are some spectacularly bad performances (I will never be able to take Thora Birch seriously as an actress). Yes there are some spectacularly bad costumes (what the HECK was that elf woman wearing? What was that thing?). Yes the story is simplistic beyond simplistic. Yes the beholders are stupid. Yes, yes, yes. Maybe people don't remember Highlander all that well. Or The Archer. Or Jason and the Argonauts. There's a LOT of cheese in those movies. They wouldn't be what they are without the cheese. This was just one more cheesy fantasy movie, and I for one am proud to stand up say I like a little cheese in my fantasy.

It's better than peanut butter because, ew, sticky.

 

[Masquerade]

It's just not that bad. Yes there are some spectacularly bad performances (I will never be able to take Thora Birch seriously as an actress). Yes there are some spectacularly bad costumes (what the HECK was that elf woman wearing? What was that thing?). Yes the story is simplistic beyond simplistic. Yes the beholders are stupid. Yes, yes, yes. Maybe people don't remember Highlander all that well. Or The Archer. Or Jason and the Argonauts. There's a LOT of cheese in those movies. They wouldn't be what they are without the cheese. This was just one more cheesy fantasy movie, and I for one am proud to stand up say I like a little cheese in my fantasy.

I've got your back, here. I liked the D&D movie, despite its flaws. It may not have been a true adaptation of the game or even a well-made movie, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy watching it. I'll be there opening night for the sequel.

 

[Truth Seeker]

I'll be there opening night for the sequel.

Well, a opening night has several meanings.

1. At home.
2. On a portable DvD player, seen on the bus, plane or train.
3. At a matinee showing, cause, $9.50 to $10.50, is not worth the regular full price.

 

[Ranger REG]

For example, I don't have any particular hate on for Paris Hilton. I think she's remarkably unattractive for a woman who gets her picture published so often, and I don't really understand why that happens but I don't know a blessed thing about her other than she's really rich and parties a lot. As far as I know she doesn't steal money, kidnap children or beat women, so she's ahead of a good portion of the human race, at any rate. So whatever. Save your hate for people who are bad, for crying out loud. There's no shortage of them, that's for sure.

I don't hate Paris Hilton, other than the fact that she can get things her way, like a TV series and a film role. I'm just tired of hearing her name keep coming up. And personally, I don't see the attraction most of you mainlanders see in her.

And I still liked D&D better than Pirates. D&D was very much like a movie I would have made if somebody had asked me to make a D&D movie fifteen years ago.

With all due respect, I don't think you'd make a story that includes a kiddie-dungeon in a thieves' guild. Then again, I don't know you that well. The only one good thing from that movie I can say I like is Zoe McLellan.

Nowadays I'd like to think I'd come up with something a little more interesting, but in my twenties I think I'd have come up with something pretty much like that. It was very much what my campaigns were like in those days, which is something I really liked about it. It was certainly made by somebody who'd played a lot of D&D and wanted to get that experience on screen.

That's why you need more than one writer to brainstorm plot elements and fit them into a good story, preferably of varying age.

They failed, no question. I'm not saying it ISN'T a bad movie. It's horrendous. But at least it gives the impression of having been made with love and imagination. And I'm fond of it for that reason. People are WAY too hard on it -- in a world where cynical crap like Conan The Destroyer and Pirates of the Caribbean get trumpeted as "fun", that an honest, uncomplicated (if pretty stupid and badly made) movie gets savaged with such violence strikes me as very unfair.

For the record, I didn't say I like Conan the Destroyer. But for Pirates of the Caribbeans, it has the required elements I expect it to have, with the terrific "skeleton crew" effect and comedic Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow as bonuses. Of course, Orlando Bloom could be a little less stiff and relaxed in his performance.

If it had been called The Dragon's Staff people would be putting it up with Beastmaster or The Sword and the Sorcerer, which is where it belongs (I don't think it's quite as good as either, but it's better than Krull, at least). It's just a cheesy fantasy movie, not out of line for that genre in terms of production value, acting ability, screenplay or direction. It's got some good stunts, okay swordfights, funny moments, charming leads, creepy (if spectacularly goofy (I'm looking at YOU, Jeremy)) bad guys, a few monsters and great big aerial dragon battle with explosions and everything.

I guess that's the thing. No one likes cheesy nowadays, not when a film is branded or titled "Dungeons & Dragons." You are right, any other film title, and we would have taken the film less seriously simply because it is not a D&D branded film.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Save your hate for people who are bad, for crying out loud. There's no shortage of them, that's for sure.

No worries. I have plenty of hate to go around.