Enevhar Aldarion
Hero
That is also IMDB, where anyone with a login can go and add and remove and edit stuff. Not much different than Wikipedia. Maybe someone with an account there should go and add Gary's name to it.
D&D Movie/TV D&D Movie - Wild Speculation and Poll
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That is also IMDB, where anyone with a login can go and add and remove and edit stuff. Not much different than Wikipedia. Maybe someone with an account there should go and add Gary's name to it.
TPB absolutely has stakes. If those stakes didn't resonate with you, that's okay (there are plenty of Very Serious Movies whose stakes do not resonate with me one little bit), but that doesn't mean it has none.
TPB is a lighthearted adventure movie in the same vein as "Pirates of the Caribbean" and "Indiana Jones." It's a bit further toward the comedy end of the spectrum than those two, but it is nowhere near a straight-up comedy like "Spaceballs" or "Monty Python and the Holy Grail."
There could be a screenplay that Arneson wrote in secret, discovered posthumously, that turned out to be just what the producer was looking for.
I feel a bit doubtful that this is in fact the case. But maybe that's the frame story!
Another, slightly less wild, possibility is that the plot is based on a module Arneson wrote. Temple of the Frog?
OB1
Jedi Master
Gygax is also listed under writers, also with the (game) parenthetical next to it if to click on the "2 more credits". They are being listed because they wrote the source material that the film is based on, not because this is based on a script they wrote.
Ralif Redhammer
Legend
OB1
Jedi Master
Well then let's take it one step further and make it a full meta-circle!
- Daley and Goldstein received a "secret posthumous script" from Gygax and Anderson
- The movie is about a group of actors who play D&D after their shoot
- Whose characters go on an epic quest as seen in the film
- And end the quest in the Outer Planes, where they tell Gygax and Arneson the story of their adventure
- Mid credits scene - Gygax and Arneson write down the story on a scroll and send it through a Gate to Daley and Goldstein in the real world.
Bonus idea: Daley and Goldstein get the script by visiting Gygax and Arneson in their home in the Outer Planes.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
The difference is, the characters in Pirates and Indiana Jones are real, at least within the fiction of the movie. The only real characters in TPB are a little boy and his grandpa, and they are never in any danger. If anything bad happens to anyone grandpa can just change it.
That makes it much closer to Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
M_Natas
Adventurer
Uff - that reads like a really really bad script. And the problem is not the Frame-Story ^^
Ralif Redhammer
Legend
There are so many things about the script that just don't square up. That Gygax approved of it and praised it so, despite it being so far afield from D&D (while at the same time blasting Conan the Barbarian). And that James Goldman, the writer of the amazing Lion in Winter (well worth watching if you haven't) and the darkly thoughtful Robin and Marian created such a simplistic piece of nonsense.
ART!
Deluxe Unhuman
Stan Lee oversaw the creation of some pretty terrible/inaccurate Marvel adaptations to tv in the '70s. I'm sure the history of media adaptations is full of the creative forces behind successful IPs being adapted with full consultation of the creator into terrible and/or far-afield adaptations. I'm not sure what causes this. Probably studio/committee interference.
doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Not to anyone just enjoying the movie rather than nitpicking it in order to have a hot take.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
I enjoyed The Princess Bride, I enjoyed Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Because they where funny, not because they had stakes.
ART!
Deluxe Unhuman
Different people are able to suspend their disbelief more readily or less readily, and in different ways. The story within a story in TPB isn't inherently less capable of engaging the viewer just because it's overtly a story being told to a kid - it just depends on the viewer.
Christopher Bixby
Explorer
Well if one were to look into it further there already is a d&d movie out there and it is quite good as it was. It brought together a group of hero's of the main four races elf, human, dwarf, and halfling. They basically made it as an adventure in the mind if the characters and from a dms perspective it was kind of how I see a session for a campaign could go. The story building and character development were quite well done as well
Christopher Bixby
Explorer
Here is a link to the 2000 movie on imdb website
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Dungeons & Dragons (2000) - IMDb
Dungeons & Dragons: Directed by Courtney Solomon. With Jeremy Irons, Bruce Payne, Justin Whalin, Marlon Wayans. Profion, a tyrant, attempts to overthrow a peaceful kingdom ruled by a tough empress.
m.imdb.com
doctorbadwolf
Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Good for you
OB1
Jedi Master
I wonder if we are using different definitions of the word "stakes". Because funny relies on communicating the stakes of the scene to produce the emotional response of laughter just as much as a drama does to make you cry or an action story does to get you to the edge of your seat.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
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