D&D Movie/TV New Footage & Poster For D&D: Honor Among Thieves Movie

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There's a brand new poster and new footage available for next year's Dungeons & Dragons movie, Honor Among Thieves. The new footage is a featurette of various pieces, incuding new monsters, and a look at the animatronics and CGI. The film comes out on March 31st, 2023 and stars Chris Pine, Michelle Rodriguez, Rege-Jean Page, Justice Smith, Sophia Lillis, and Hugh Grant.

 
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Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
Given the nostalgia factor for D&D it would have been a prime opportunity for an illustrated movie poster, especially for a ensemble cast on varying scales composition like that, which to my mind at least really shines with a good illustrator. But they went a different way.
It would have been a great time to get a mix of classic D&D artists to do movie posters. Larry Elmore could rock the assignment, and I'd love to see what an Erol Otus or Tony DiTerlizzi poster looked like.
 

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Disney is going to be really furious if this movie is more popular that its own sequel of Willow. And Hasbro will be very happy with lots of toys they are going to sell. I am thinking about to buy some action figures for my nephews.

I hope this movie to work well in the box-office because it is fantasy+action-comedy. It is for all audences and not only for the fandom.

I miss the classic races lineages: elves, halflings and gnomes. Maybe we could these be a future CGI animated show.

Disney will be happy if Willow series breaks even, have you seen the audience score on it on Rotten Tomatoes, it'd have been cheaper to heat their homes by burning hundred dollar bills then make this series.

So no they won't be mad if Honor Among Thieves outshines Willow series, it'd be damn hard not to, they might take notes however looking for ideas to fix the situation.

I haven't seen it myself, but I plan on giving it a shot, just because most folks hate it, doesn't mean I'll hate Willow.
 


Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Disney will be happy if Willow series breaks even, have you seen the audience score on it on Rotten Tomatoes, it'd have been cheaper to heat their homes by burning hundred dollar bills then make this series.
Crowd-sourced approval scores are not regarded as worth the paper they're printed on these days. They'll measure it in dollars, not reviewbombs, as they should. The days of crowd-sourced reviews are very much numbered. Sucks for Rotten Tomatoes and the like, but that's how it's going.
 


Half the single star reviews are angry because a main character is a lesbian and/or the show respects marginalized peoples.

Seems like it is getting review bombed.

I've seen shows with way more gay couples then that get much better reviews and audience scores like Dragon Prince. Some folks might score low just because of that, but I doubt the score would drop that low only because of a Lesbian couple, a little sadly, but not a lot. But I will watch for myself.
 

Reynard

Legend
I feel like leaning into what practical effects they can is the right choice, as is embracing teh Guardians of the Galaxy-ness of it all. Will it be good? Probably not. Will it be fun? Signs point to Yes.
 

Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
Crowd-sourced approval scores are not regarded as worth the paper they're printed on these days. They'll measure it in dollars, not reviewbombs, as they should. The days of crowd-sourced reviews are very much numbered. Sucks for Rotten Tomatoes and the like, but that's how it's going.
Rotten Tomatoes has value, to me, as an aggregator of critics' scores, especially since they have them in two tiers of "anyone who has a blog" and "serious professional reviewers." While it's not a perfect tool, I find that it's often quite useful. My wife and I found "Ex Machina" and "What We Do in the Shadows" off their near-perfect tomato scores, for instance.
 

vecna00

Speculation Specialist Wizard
This is the correct answer.

The OVA has more beautiful music overall, and better base animation (it does overrely on stills, but it has that 80s anime aesthetic that the TV series abandons for an aesthetic that's a premonition of the fugly last gasps of handdrawn animation in the '00s.

But the series tells a much more nuanced story, by virtue of having time. It's also a better conclusion to the story than the CoHK manga is (which somehow kills off Ashram in a way that is incompatible with the middling, but canonical Legend of Crystania).

The best bit of Lodoss material, imho, is the Tale of Deedlit manga. This captures the best visual elements of the OVA anime while staying true to the story from the novels, replays, and Grey Witch manga.

I'd recommend to consume in order:

1. Lodoss OVA
2. 1995 Lodoss SNES title (no official translation, unfortunately, but this fills in the backstory a bit).
3. Grey Witch manga and/or novel.
4. Demon of Flame manga (no official translation, unfortunately).
5. Chronicles of Heroic Knights anime.
6. The Lady of Pharis manga (backstory to the entire series, it's hinted at over the course of everything that I've listed before).
7. Deedlit's Tale manga (it's told out of order so it's best read once you have a larger context of the story arcs).
8. Rune Soldier Louie manga and/or anime.
9. Legend of Crystania movie and OVA.
10. Play Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth (takes place after the end of the entire series).

Also, if you want a very different D&D campaign setting from the same author, Record of Grancrest War is phenomenal, and has been described by some as Fire Emblem: The Anime. Interestingly, Fire Emblem has readily stolen from Lodoss - see the villain Ashnard, who is clearly a combination of Ashram and Wagnard, for example, but also just the art style and world concepts throughout - and Grancrest is very much reversing the homage by borrowing from Fire Emblem with its crest mechanics and Fire Emblem-esque story (something that Fire Emblem would then borrow back with Three Houses). But Grancrest War has a lot of non-FE tropes too that are very D&D - vampires, werewolves, other classic fantasy tropes that fit very easily with D&D but not so with FE. Grancrest has been translated in both an anime and manga form, though they tell very similar stories.
There's also that wonderful (at least I think it is) Lodoss War game for the Dreamcast. Though, it's been almost 20 years since I played it and I can't remember much about it.
 


Steel_Wind

Legend
Crowd-sourced approval scores are not regarded as worth the paper they're printed on these days. They'll measure it in dollars, not reviewbombs, as they should. The days of crowd-sourced reviews are very much numbered. Sucks for Rotten Tomatoes and the like, but that's how it's going.
Streaming services decide success/failure based on bums in seats and eyes on screen within a finite period after release.

The difference between a streaming service and traditional broadcasters is that Streaming services know -- for sure -- if you watched it and when. They aren't guessing. While they do not know how many people were sitting down in your living room to watch it at the same time, they don't care about that. They count em all as "1" and build their data models from a point of certainty.

The confidence streaming services have in their uptake data is robust AF.
 


So the subject of the Willow series coming up compels me to point out how much better the Willow series's poster that I just now saw is than this D&D poster:
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That's what a high fantasy movie poster should look like, and this isn't even a movie. Earlier I was forgiving thinking, "oh maybe the days of the epic illustrated character and scene composite poster were dead and gone and that kind of mediocre photoshop job is all we can hope for", but no, sorry D&D movie, you just dropped the ball. Hire an illustrator.
 

So the subject of the Willow series coming up compels me to point out how much better the Willow series's poster that I just now saw is than this D&D poster:
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That's what a high fantasy movie poster should look like, and this isn't even a movie. Earlier I was forgiving thinking, "oh maybe the days of the epic illustrated character and scene composite poster were dead and gone and that kind of mediocre photoshop job is all we can hope for", but no, sorry D&D movie, you just dropped the ball. Hire an illustrator.

I like both.
 


grimslade

Krampus ate my d20s
So the subject of the Willow series coming up compels me to point out how much better the Willow series's poster that I just now saw is than this D&D poster:
View attachment 268887

That's what a high fantasy movie poster should look like, and this isn't even a movie. Earlier I was forgiving thinking, "oh maybe the days of the epic illustrated character and scene composite poster were dead and gone and that kind of mediocre photoshop job is all we can hope for", but no, sorry D&D movie, you just dropped the ball. Hire an illustrator.
The teaser image is similar to D&D:HAT
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Willow stands to benefit from the D&D movie. The show's biggest obstacle is it can't, for obvious reasons, say it's a D&D TV show. If the D&D movie proves popular, then there will be the inevitable "If you liked the D&D movie you might like this..." articles springing up all over the internet.

Willow has a better poster, but D&D has better brand recognition.
 


I remeber when I was a child when the movies Star Wars or Conan the barbarian were superhits in the box-office then the videoclubs had got a lot of serie B movies of the same genre, trying to imitate the same success.

If this action-live movie is a hit, at least in the same level of transformers, then other movie studios could try to imitate the same path. Now Warner is with "House of Dragons", the prequel of "Game of Thrones". Disney wants to try it with the sequel of Willow. Netflix has got the "Dragon Prince". And manga+anime publishers could relauch old titles of sword&sorcery genre. And these companies really worry about to tell good stories.

A mistake could be avoided is about the ideological neutrality. Some titles have failed by fault of this.

* If 2023 is going to be a year with radical changes in the entertaiment industry, about mergers and acquisitions, we could find some surprised with Paramount Pictures, the current Hasbro's partner.
 

I remeber when I was a child when the movies Star Wars or Conan the barbarian were superhits in the box-office then the videoclubs had got a lot of serie B movies of the same genre, trying to imitate the same success.

If this action-live movie is a hit, at least in the same level of transformers, then other movie studios could try to imitate the same path. Now Warner is with "House of Dragons", the prequel of "Game of Thrones". Disney wants to try it with the sequel of Willow. Netflix has got the "Dragon Prince". And manga+anime publishers could relauch old titles of sword&sorcery genre. And these companies really worry about to tell good stories.

A mistake could be avoided is about the ideological neutrality. Some titles have failed by fault of this.

* If 2023 is going to be a year with radical changes in the entertaiment industry, about mergers and acquisitions, we could find some surprised with Paramount Pictures, the current Hasbro's partner.
As a reminder. The Magic: the Gathering show will be on Netflix. Hasbro is not locked into a Paramount deal. Heck the D&D tv series is currently being shipped, as it isn't exclusive to Paramount either.

Netflix has two Witcher live action shows as well as Shadow and Bone doing good numbers. Prime Video has Rings of Power and Wheel of Time doing extraordinary numbers

Willow, the series, is coming out because people are eating up fantasy right now. It's not about D&D, but the whole genre.
 

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