D&D (2024) D&D species article

[Tales and Chronicles]

Can someone give me a brief resume of the features for the new Goliath? It's not just the "get big for 10 minutes", right?

 

[mellored]

Can someone give me a brief resume of the features for the new Goliath? It's not just the "get big for 10 minutes", right?

*from the playtest

35' walking speed and get big is the base.
Subspecies gives you another thing proficiency times a day, based on a giant
Cloud teleports
Fire adds fire damage.
Hill knocks prone
Storm is reaction damage.

Keep in mind, species are a bit weaker than before, as background got a half-feat.

 

[mamba]

Uh, no, the 20 does not collapse further

yeah, my bad. The formula is correct, I just did not simplify it properly

(n! / (r! * (n - r)!) with n = 6 and r = 3 boils down to 6! / (3! * 3!) as I wrote, but that is 6 * 5 * 4 / 3!, or simply 5 * 4, so 20 combinations (and that / 3! takes care of the different combinations of the same attributes in different order…)

 

[mamba]

So now a 3ft gnome and a 8ft orc each with 18 strength and 18 dexterity have no physical mechanical differences.

That's dumb.

I agree, that is dumb, they should not all have the 3-18 range, some should be lower, others higher.

And it makes me sound like a grognard.
And I don't even think the community even wants there be no difference between small and medium creatures.

I am not sure what the community wants, I assume they do want everyone to fit into 3 to 18 and be equally capable

 

[Micah Sweet]

I agree, that is dumb, they should not all have the 3-18 range, some should be lower, others higher.


I am not sure what the community wants, I assume they do want everyone to fit into 3 to 18 and be equally capable

What they want IMO is simply to have their own PC (whoever they are) suffer no weaknesses of any kind compared to other PCs. They don't want everything equal, they want their experience to never be below anyone else's. It is personal.

 

[Minigiant]

I agree, that is dumb, they should not all have the 3-18 range, some should be lower, others higher.


I am not sure what the community wants, I assume they do want everyone to fit into 3 to 18 and be equally capable

I don't mind the shared 3-18 range.

But having small size or powerful build modified your carrying capacity and athletics/acrobatics checks should be a normal rule.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

*from the playtest

35' walking speed and get big is the base.
Subspecies gives you another thing proficiency times a day, based on a giant
Cloud teleports
Fire adds fire damage.
Hill knocks prone
Storm is reaction damage.

Keep in mind, species are a bit weaker than before, as background got a half-feat.

I miss cold resistance of the middle-old goliath already.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I don't mind the shared 3-18 range.

But having small size or powerful build modified your carrying capacity

Agreed.

and athletics/acrobatics checks should be a normal rule.

Maybe yes.

 

[JEB]

35' walking speed

Huh. So they increased the speed of dwarves, gnomes, and halflings from 25 to 30 - removing a downside from being small size - but also increased the speed of goliaths from 30 to 35.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Huh. So they increased the speed of dwarves, gnomes, and halflings from 25 to 30 - removing a downside from being small size - but also increased the speed of goliaths from 30 to 35.

Wood elves also have 35ft movement.

But usually the slowest character hinders the party. If one or two are above average, no problem. One or two below, yes a problem.