WotC "D&D's Best Year Yet"

[Zardnaar]

I mean, of course. The oldest Gen Z is 24 (my age!) so it's not like your comparing apples to apples here.

Anyway, I'm trying to say that the comment of "My generation X is the one's of build and producers!" and "Gen Z is going to get their bubble popped!" seems to be a very restrictive POV (even though you admit the underlying reasons for those stereotypes).

I mean, I was raised in a world where 9/11 and the 2008 crisis were stuff built in to everyone's psyche. The idea that everything can "go to s**t" on a dime is not exactly shocking to me. And this crisis is going to have a much worse impact on older people whose retirement, home prices, and other savings are going to be driven into the dirt when they need it, while younger folks have a much longer time to recover.

But I digress. We are hear to discuss D&D, and this whole "generation talk" was spawned off a typo in an infographic.

I'll add that in business, the younger generation is sometimes in more demand because it is viewed that they have a longer product lifecycle, so I understand why D&D is so proudly showing off "Look how young our playerbase is!"

Some people I know have already lost jobs. My brother for example he's a pilot. He's not in debt though. Sure some people will lose everything others will ride it out.

This is second crash in just over a decade though. My group skews young they're students age 21-27. They don't have things like free hold houses to fall back on. Our accommodation expenses are $25 USD a week for local rates.

One guy dodged a bullet, took a new job early March, another's job looks safe, the rest not so much.

My sister was around age 24 when she bought her first house. She was 25 iirc. 40k USD early 90s. I won't say what's it's worth now but she had 3 at one point.

 

[Morrus]

Could we take the general discussion of life in the 90s to the off topic forum please, guys? The thread has been thoroughly hijacked by a conversation by just a couple of people.

 

[MNblockhead]

They should have just labelled that 40-45+ group "grognard".


* full disclosure: I'm in that group.

So, I've finally earned the title grognard? I'm still getting used to the term being used for TTRPG players. I've always thought of Grognards as the old guys at the war game table, getting pushed to further and more remote rooms, year after year in the conventions, annoyed at all the fantasy, sci-fi RPG players overtaking their conventions.

 

[MNblockhead]

Ah ok. I was curious why you had 7 hobby stores in your area open.

Nebraska is one of only 8 states where non-essential businesses are allowed to be open. I live in Washington State (coincidentally the home of Wizards of the Coast) and I've been ordered to work at home for the past 2 months. Hobby stores around here are all ordered to be closed (they are non-essential).

Closest thing to a hobby store that is open is a Michael's. Thank the lord, I'm about to run out of paints with all the miniature painting I've done in quarantine...

Also thank you for the offer to tour me around Omaha.

Well in Minnesota, they are "closed" but in the Twin Cities you can still buy from some of them. The Source Comics and Games, for example is doing same-day deliveries in the area. Fantasy Flight's Game Center is closed, but of course FG/Asmodee has their on-line channels for FG stuff and are likely not concerned so much about moving their non-FG stock at their brick & mortar store. Not sure about the others, we have a lot of game stores in the Twin Cities, but I'm lucky to have two awesome FLGS in several minutes driving distance, so I've not even visited any others.

I definitely need to find something to buy from The Source. The place is a local gaming institution as far as I'm concerned.

 

[atanakar]

So, I've finally earned the title grognard? I'm still getting used to the term being used for TTRPG players. I've always thought of Grognards as the old guys at the war game table, getting pushed to further and more remote rooms, year after year in the conventions, annoyed at all the fantasy, sci-fi RPG players overtaking their conventions.

Grognard is an attitude. It has nothing to do with age. I'm 55 and playing all kinds of new games and not nostalgic of the 80s or 90s.

 

[MNblockhead]

I’m really trying to push myself with my group to do just that, but inertia is keeping me from organizing something (well, that and a lack of a web camera). I need to suck it up and plan something, because it’s clear that a little over half of my group has interest, but also clear if I don’t make the first move no one else will.

Web camera is not necessary. I would recommend a good headset, but most newer laptops are fine for mic and audio.

Yes, being able to see people is nice, but don't let not having a web camera stop you from playing on-line.

 

[MNblockhead]

Grognard is an attitude. It has nothing to do with age. I'm 55 and playing all kinds of new games and not nostalgic of the 80s or 90s.

Hmmm...I'm running a 5e game homebrewed to give XP for GP and I don't like dragonborn and tieflings.

But I also buy and run new games (The Expance, Dialect, ICRPG, etc.)

Maybe not a grognard, but old enough to remember gaming before and during the satanic panic and it is fun to put on my grognard hat now and then.

 

[Lem23]

I'm definitely a grognard (historical wargames only), been gaming since the early 80s.

 

[gyor]

Back on topic of 5e D&D, I don't think we are anywhere near peak yet, once things like BG3, the new MtG cartoon (which likely visit Ravnica and Theros, which boost mtg sell, with spills over into increased sales for Theros and Ravnica Campaign Books), any other major media they have planned, plus other pop culture references, Stranger Tjings season 4, ect...

 

[Zardnaar]

Back on topic of 5e D&D, I don't think we are anywhere near peak yet, once things like BG3, the new MtG cartoon (which likely visit Ravnica and Theros, which boost mtg sell, with spills over into increased sales for Theros and Ravnica Campaign Books), any other major media they have planned, plus other pop culture references, Stranger Tjings season 4, ect...

It's probably peaked.

This thread probably won't age to well in 2-3 months or a year.

YouTube ad revenue already drying up, don't expect the D&D movie anytime soon if ever.

It's not impossible D&D stays where it is but yeah.

Amazon's also been closed in some countries and/ or can't deliver and the USPS isn't looking so good.

Don't be to surprised to see class action lawsuits vs Amazon either

Not all the comic and gamestores gonna survive and are closed.