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AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
Folks from WotC have said multiple time that the 30+ races does not include setting-specific ones, so something that is so attached to a setting like the Warforged will not be in the book.
Yeah. But there is some confusion as to what exactly "setting-specific races" means. Are the Vedalken Setting-Specific? In D&D (so far) they only exist in Ravnica, but they exist on multiple worlds in the M:tG Multiverse. Are Grung "Setting-Specific"? As far as I can tell, they only ever appear in the Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk. What about Shifters and Changelings? Can Lycanthrope-folk and Doppleganger-folk really not exist in settings besides Eberron?

I'm certain that Warforged and Kalashtar won't appear in it, but I'm less sure about Shifters, Changelings, Vedalken, and other races.
 

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1. Aasimar
2. Tortles
3. Kenku
4. Goblins
5. Hobgoblins
6. Bugbears
7. Orcs
8. Kobolds
9. Purebloods
10. Tabaxi
11. Firbolgs
12. Lizardfolk
13. Tritons
14. Goliaths
15. Githyanki
16. Githzerai
17. Eladrin
18. Shadar Kai
19. Duergar
20. Deep Gnomes
21. Sea Elves
22. Aacrokra
23. Genasi
24 Centaur
25. Minotaur
26. Owlin
27. Fairies
28. Haregon
29. Metallic Dragonborn
30. Chromatic Dragonborn
31. Gem Dragonborn
32. Loxo/Loxodons
33. Changelings
34. Shifters
35. Satyrs

A possible list of races for MP: MotM?
 

Yeah. But there is some confusion as to what exactly "setting-specific races" means. Are the Vedalken Setting-Specific? In D&D (so far) they only exist in Ravnica, but they exist on multiple worlds in the M:tG Multiverse. Are Grung "Setting-Specific"? As far as I can tell, they only ever appear in the Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk. What about Shifters and Changelings? Can Lycanthrope-folk and Doppleganger-folk really not exist in settings besides Eberron?

I'm certain that Warforged and Kalashtar won't appear in it, but I'm less sure about Shifters, Changelings, Vedalken, and other races.

Vedalken don't appear in any classical D&D setting so they'd have to figure how they fit in the D&D multiverse so I doubt they are in.

Grung might or might not be in.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Ha! If you can imagine a centaur pulling his horse weight up a ladder and managing somehow to shimmy out a trapdoor hole meant for humanoids, more power to you. I guess I am just narrow-minded. My loss, I guess. :D
I literally cannot imagine what trouble they’d have with the climb. They wouldn’t be pulling their whole eight with thier arms. The legs can push, you know. Horses literally climb things.

Its not “justification”, btw, I’ve actually consulted friends who raise and train horses, and they were blown away at the idea a centaur couldn’t climb a ladder.
 




A lot of the reason subraces where invented in the first place was to give a different distribution of ASIs, which is no longer needed. It was pretty much a 5e thing anyway, not something with a long history.

I suspect some of the more redundant ones will be dropped, like halfling subraces.
I have played gold and wild elves in ADnD 2e... Since DnD is less than 50 years old, Subraces existed for half its lifespan at least.
 

I think popularity has to be considered. Warforged are popular even outside Eberron, because people like the idea. I've seen a changeling PC in Ravenloft. But I've never seen a vedalken, like anywhere. Players don't find them interesting.

They might be a bit popular among some MtG players, but they never got enough development. Mechanically skill wise they are interesting.
 

el-remmen

Moderator Emeritus
Its not “justification”, btw, I’ve actually consulted friends who raise and train horses, and they were blown away at the idea a centaur couldn’t climb a ladder.

Its horse body and rear legs just hang in the air? Do you thing they just point straight out or droop down while being dragged up?

I am not trying to be obtuse on purpose. I just really can't imagine it working.
 



If we're taking the opportunity, maybe we change 'Pureblood' to something else.

Yuan Ti use Pureblood ironically so it's okay.

But they could use Extaminaar which were weaker version of Purebloods from 3.5e that were playable without level adjustment. Only problem is Extaminaar are tied to Forgotten Realms lore, but if their noble house went multiversial in their operations that would take care of that.

 

eyeheartawk

#1 Enworld Jerk™
I tried looking at the Twitter for images and went I went to embiggen them and Twitter told me there was a six month exclusivity period for big images.

Weird.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Its horse body and rear legs just hang in the air? Do you thing they just point straight out or droop down while being dragged up?

I am not trying to be obtuse on purpose. I just really can't imagine it working.
The hooves are all on ladder rungs.

The centaur doesn’t have any penalty involving picking stuff up from the ground, so we know the humanoid torso can bend down like that.
 


Parmandur

Book-Friend
I think popularity has to be considered. Warforged are popular even outside Eberron, because people like the idea. I've seen a changeling PC in Ravenloft. But I've never seen a vedalken, like anywhere. Players don't find them interesting.
Heck, they only exist in a handful of Magic worlds, and they undermined their point (Blue-mana people who don't live under water) by introducing Merfolk to Ravnica.
 

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