[D20 Future] Starship Rules

[Black Pharaoh]

Keep in mind that d20F is a toolbox that you can pick and choose what you want.

except the tool I want to use seems to not work.

I assumed D20 future was a set of add-ons or tools to be used with D20 modern in the creation of science fiction settings. However the things I want to do don't seem to be possible using those tools.

I want ships that vary from small one man fighters to giant ships many kilometers long. D20 future doesn't seem to be able to do this.

 

[RodneyThompson]

I want ships that vary from small one man fighters to giant ships many kilometers long. D20 future doesn't seem to be able to do this.

I beg to differ. Really, the only thing it "doesn't do" is give you the large number of weapons you want (at least, for the ship from Andromeda you listed). That's just because the armament on spaceships differs widely from setting to setting, so a generic setting was used as the baseline. By altering the setting, you can also alter that one starship guideline to fit the setting.

Every setting is going to have setting-specific rules, especially when it comes to the huge disparity in technology throughout the various sci-fi settings.

 

[Aussiegamer]

except the tool I want to use seems to not work.

I assumed D20 future was a set of add-ons or tools to be used with D20 modern in the creation of science fiction settings. However the things I want to do don't seem to be possible using those tools.

I want ships that vary from small one man fighters to giant ships many kilometers long. D20 future doesn't seem to be able to do this.

Have a look at my system if you like. www.d20projects.com

A tool box or a system? Whats in a name?
To me a system means so much more than a set of tools!
Aren't the tools suppose to be able to fit together and not just be completely seperate things that don't mesh together to allow you to use all of these so called tools at the same time? At least the variant rules were called that and they all fit together.

Oh and! space ships and Mecha are variants and not for complete use? hum pretty boring future if there is no space travel or giant robots stomping about.

I am calling it more than you by saying a system and you JUST a tool!

It does not seem I am the only one not Happy with the d20 future system. I only seek to find ways to improve the system for it to operate as that a d20 gaming system that can operate all of it "tools" correctly as one!

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

well you might want to tell the designers that! as it was released as a game system and not seperate sets of rules.

That would be a wrong assumption on your part. It's okay to criticize the book - I feel like returning my copy myself - but you have to speak reasonably about it, too.

The fact that it requires D20 Modern to be used should have been a clue that it's not a game system.

 

[Aussiegamer]

yes you need the new book as a build on to the 1st book. Every system does that! you have the core books and then the build on books. You are not going to reprint all the smae rules for each new book.

But I could be wrong about the designers, maybe one of them could tell us all what they think it is.

But either way if the some of the new rules don't fit with other new rules then it makes it hard to have them in the whole thing and a bit of a waste really having them there.

OK if it is variation like WP/VP or AC to DR (which to me are tools), thats a bit different to mecha and space craft rules! They are designed to be placed with the d20 modern and d20 urban arcana if you want a campaign that has vampires in space riding around in mecha.

I made an assumption on their part after talking to Rodney about some things, now I could be wrong but I am being truthfully as far as I understand.

I don't like being accused of lying, one of my pet hates.

But this is going way off topic, it was about rules about jump drives I beleive, maybe we should get back to that.

 

[Ranger REG]

But I could be wrong about the designers, maybe one of them could tell us all what they think it is.

Do you want the designers or the editors as well?

Co-designer JD Wiker can be reached on his web site with his own forum. Google it.

Editor Chris Perkin can be reached through WotC.

You've already in communique with Rodney Thompson, aka Moridin.

 

[Aussiegamer]

no I am fine thank you and I will stand by my assumption until someone who designed the game tells me otherwise. Editors just clean up the text for sale, so designer please

And again we we are talking about light drive and should try to stay on that subject, the tool or system is so nothing to worry about why are we discussing it. you call them tools and I call it a system, it is both and neither who cares. The point is that the whole d20 system should work together when sold by one company in one book, shouldn't it?

but alas I have been dragged back into the this or that discussion.

So to this I say. Its a guideline and if you want your ships to move 1 day per 1LY then make it so number 1.

 

[Emiricol]

I've read it. I've used it. It works fine. Sorry you can't get it to work. It seems... well, easy enough. To me. Clearly, YMMV.

 

[Aussiegamer]

Have you had mecha v space craft combat? if so what size mods did you use?

 

[Ranger REG]

no I am fine thank you and I will stand by my assumption until someone who designed the game tells me otherwise. Editors just clean up the text for sale, so designer please

Freelanced designers no longer have control over what the editors does to their material they submitted, once they're paid.

You cannot lay all the blame on designers. They (JD Wiker and Rodney Thompson) are not on the company payroll (that includes medical benefit).