lmpjr007
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Any fan of D20 Modern might want to check this out ...
http://www.lpjdesign.com/PDFs/D20Ad1.pdf
That's got to hurt...
http://www.lpjdesign.com/PDFs/D20Ad1.pdf
That's got to hurt...
D20 Modern fans might want to see this...
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Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad
I'm not even sure what the product is. It looks like a d20 game, set in a modern setting, but I don't think it uses d20 Modern rules. Wow, how amazingly lame. Why would you come out with a d20 "modern" game, after d20 Modern rules came out, without using those rules (or at least pretending to use them a bit, or pretending they are "adaptable" to use for d20 Modern)?
Actually, I'm not even sure it is a d20 game, since they use "Strength, Agility, Intelligence, Perception, Willpower, and Stamina". Okay, obviously they are just using synonyms for d20 stats...but why? Did they not know the d20 license was free? Did they not think they would reach a bigger audience by using a d20-compatible game than yet another set of brand new rules for people to use?
They say "Be warned, this is not the pseudo-realistic world of D20 MODERN or the heroic adventures of James Bond, this is the gritty, violent world of Marvel Comics’ The Punisher or the motion picture Fight Club."
Are they kidding? Punisher comic, not pseudo-realistic? Fight club, not pseudo-realistic? They call THOSE their examples of "gritty"?
Wow, I really am trying to be non-negative here. I have nothing against this game, and truly support the efforts of anyone trying to get into any part of the RPG field. And yet, it looks like these guys could use someone with a bit more business-sense for marketing their products (despite the claim of a film option before the game was even released - which does sound like quite an accomplishment).
Actually, I'm not even sure it is a d20 game, since they use "Strength, Agility, Intelligence, Perception, Willpower, and Stamina". Okay, obviously they are just using synonyms for d20 stats...but why? Did they not know the d20 license was free? Did they not think they would reach a bigger audience by using a d20-compatible game than yet another set of brand new rules for people to use?
They say "Be warned, this is not the pseudo-realistic world of D20 MODERN or the heroic adventures of James Bond, this is the gritty, violent world of Marvel Comics’ The Punisher or the motion picture Fight Club."
Are they kidding? Punisher comic, not pseudo-realistic? Fight club, not pseudo-realistic? They call THOSE their examples of "gritty"?
Wow, I really am trying to be non-negative here. I have nothing against this game, and truly support the efforts of anyone trying to get into any part of the RPG field. And yet, it looks like these guys could use someone with a bit more business-sense for marketing their products (despite the claim of a film option before the game was even released - which does sound like quite an accomplishment).
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HeapThaumaturgist
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Bad form, I say.
Really snide and self-satisfied way of advertising. And advertising a competing product isn't really appropriate in a forum, I don't think.
By "gritty" I think they mean "lots of stuff splatters and is COOL".
--fje
Really snide and self-satisfied way of advertising. And advertising a competing product isn't really appropriate in a forum, I don't think.
By "gritty" I think they mean "lots of stuff splatters and is COOL".
--fje
psychognome
First Post
Naw, this product's got nothing to do with the d20 System, or d20 Modern for that matter. As said, it's a grim and gritty game about violence and stuff.
Well, it sure seems interesting to me, at least from reading the two reviews of the game. The melee-combat systems got me really interested now.
But dissing good ol' d20 Modern is still not nice. 
Well, it sure seems interesting to me, at least from reading the two reviews of the game. The melee-combat systems got me really interested now.
But dissing good ol' d20 Modern is still not nice. Well, you know I had to put my 2 cents in.
1) Press releases belong in the publisher forum.
2) If this doesn't have anything to do with d20m, why would you even think about posting it here?
3) Why the heck is an AD a meg in size?? Us modem users take forever trying to download it just to comment.
Heap(stuff) and Mistwell,
This publisher is a bit notorious for 'bad form' when posting on the boards. Read the map thread by alsih2o in this forum, and look at how he responded to criticism of his products, and how his views on 'quality' are.
1) Press releases belong in the publisher forum.
2) If this doesn't have anything to do with d20m, why would you even think about posting it here?
3) Why the heck is an AD a meg in size?? Us modem users take forever trying to download it just to comment.
Heap(stuff) and Mistwell,
This publisher is a bit notorious for 'bad form' when posting on the boards. Read the map thread by alsih2o in this forum, and look at how he responded to criticism of his products, and how his views on 'quality' are.
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