"Dark" elves, a pseudo-biological explanation.

Dogbrain

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No rule content, just some pipe-smoke-fueled musing.


Why are Dark Elves so very dark? On one level, there is the prot-indo-european archetype of "dark = black = evil". However, I'm amused by pseudobiological explanations and offer the following:


Unlike humans, Elves are not "pale" without their "solar protective pigmentation". Instead, they are "black". Their "real heavy genetic tan" color is the hue of the most "in the sun" Elves of a given world. Thus, Elves who have been living without ultraviolet light for manymany generations don't "go white" like cave fish. Instead, they "go black". However, since they have artificial light sources, they kept their eyes (yes, nasty Lamarckianism--just roll with it, Chachi). Thus, a "fish-belly white" nerd Elf would be rather dark-skinned, and an albino Elf would have black skin. But the hair is pigmented "normally", thus, the albinos still have white hair.

I'm sure somebody else has thought of this, too.
 

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I love threads like this.

So, wait. If a "normal" elf spends a lot of time dungeon-crawling does he get that black-blue color? Would a drow be able to blend in with his tree-dwelling cousins after a weekend at the beach?
 

Dogbrain said:
I'm sure somebody else has thought of this, too.

I don't think it's got anything to do with ultraviolets or pigments.

Body paint is the key.

Or they were cursed by the elven gods. Wasn't that the real reason?
 

Numion said:
I don't think it's got anything to do with ultraviolets or pigments.

Body paint is the key.

Or they were cursed by the elven gods. Wasn't that the real reason?

that what my DM did. Dark elves are actually extremely pale but they wear black paint (which helps them hide in the dark) the dark comes not from their skin color but form their surroundings.
 

Numion said:
Or they were cursed by the elven gods. Wasn't that the real reason?
According to Dragon 150 (with a special on Elven Gods, including "Megwandir", which was supposedly Lolth's name when she was still one of the Seldarine), they were dark-skinned before becoming evil. "...Artistic but decadent elves that dwelled in the south..." I believe it stated.

Also, can't remember what it was, but there was another name given to the race in Drow of the Underdark (Illytheri, I think) druing the introduction.

Myself... Don't have elves, so don't have Drow either... Simple, eh?:D
 

My explanation for their dark skin is far simpler, and it ties in to their Evil nature, as well: Their constant worship of Lolth and practice of abominable magical experiments in her name, have twisted the race, warping their bodies and minds to such a point that they're only recognizable as Elves by their basic appearance (a testament to the physical purity of the race, even for the twisted Drow).

Eons of consorting with dark powers, of practicing eldritch magics, of tampering with Things Elves were Not Meant to Know, has mutated those beings into the Dark Elves we now know.
 

Bendris Noulg said:
According to Dragon 150 (with a special on Elven Gods, including "Megwandir", which was supposedly Lolth's name when she was still one of the Seldarine), they were dark-skinned before becoming evil. "...Artistic but decadent elves that dwelled in the south..." I believe it stated.

Also, can't remember what it was, but there was another name given to the race in Drow of the Underdark (Illytheri, I think) druing the introduction.

Myself... Don't have elves, so don't have Drow either... Simple, eh?:D


I think, but can't remember for sure, that this is the "official" explanation in the Forgotten Realms. But I generally don't worry about why their skin is pitch black. It just is.

hunter1828
 

Hey guys, I saw this thread and I just decided to put in my two cents.

Recently I decided that I will have dark elves be in my new campaign, but that they will be pale skinned and possibly even blind. I even toyed with the idea of them being mutations of spider and elf, sort of the way Yuan-ti are with snakes.
To me it makes more sense for dark elves and other underdark dwelling creatures to be pale, but thats because I work in a cave giving tours, and all the creatures (except for bats) have no pigment from not being exposed to the sun for ages. What can i say, sometimes my being a biology nerd gets in the way of my gaming imagination, but hey, whats not scary about an extremely pale (like almost translucent with veins showing) elf with spider fangs on it's face? :)
 

hunter1828 said:
I think, but can't remember for sure, that this is the "official" explanation in the Forgotten Realms.
As I recall, the article wasn't "setting-bound", but leaning towards FR would make sense for that time. It was an entire special on Fae, including the Faerie Queen, some more info on Elven religion and myth, a few new PC races (the original half-faeries, IIRC), yet another Elven family returning from their winter vacation to find their genetic code completely altered while sledding (including their god, an outcast that shunned the other Elven Gods for not seeing Lolth's dark heart earlier as he had, blaming them for the millenia of war that could have been everted had Correlian been able to look at Megwandir without loosing his pants).

Ah, the memories... It actually was a meaty issue if you wanted more on Fae.
 

Woot! I also love threads like these, gives me a chance to flex some brain muscles... :) Note this is going to be completely biological in nature - no magic or divine intervention or the like.

Since the closest real-life model we have to compare to Drow is humans, I'm going to start with a little background about them, then work into some theories.

Biochemically, skin pigment in humans is primarily determined by a chemical known as melanin (though hemoglobin actually contributes a bit as well). In different ethnicities, this pigment has varying concentrations. In Africans, there's a high amount of melanin, Caucasians have a small amount, and albinos have none. Skin in it's natural un-pigmented color is white. (Aside: the same is not true for eyes, whose natural color without pigmentation is blue.)

Genetically, skin color is much more complex than a simple yes/no Mendelian relationship. I won't go into the genetics of albinos (or having blue eyes, they're similar) unless someone requests it. Generally, it's thought that skin color is affected by multiple genes, and if someone is really interested I can explain how this works as well. The number of dominant genes you have determines how dark you are.

So that's very interesting (to me at least), but why exactly did this range of skin colors develop? There are several theories. The one most people have heard of is because of ultraviolet radiation. UV radiation can cause sunburn and skin cancer, and overproduction of vitamin D. However, the evidence suggests the big reason was because of folic acid/folate, which is detroyed by UV radiation (photodestruction). Folate deficiency is very bad, disrupting reproductive systems.

But, there's a problem with that line of thinking. We originated near the equator, where UV rays are strongest. So really, the question is why did lighter skins develop? This ties back to vitamin D. Melanin causes UV rays to be blocked, but a certain amount of UV radiation is necessary to produce vitamin D, which is essential for bone development and maintenance. As humans moved north and south from the equator, we began suffering from vitamin D deficiency. Lighter skin allows more radiation through, and it became a balancing of vitamin D production versus folic acid destruction.

Another, less popular, theory is due to temperature. Light skin is actually more resistant to cold temperatures than darker skin, and gets frostbitten less easily. While there is evidence to support this as well, the vitamin D/folic acid balance accounts better for the range of skin colors we see today.

Wow. So what's all this have to do with the Drow?

Well, for one thing mechanisms dependant on the sun are pretty moot underground, so color really doesn't matter. Why then would Drow skin turn darker?

One theory could be that something in the environment actually contributes to the Drow pigmentation and aggression. Perhaps it has to do with that damn chemoluminescent moss that's always around, or something in their diet. If you can remove a Drow from that, or destroy a source of that, perhaps the aggression can be removed. Note there is precedence for this - ever seen Children of the Corn? While overdramatized, there is a corn mold that causes effects similar to PCP - severe agressive tendancies.

Another theory is protection. Since there's all this moss around shedding light and shadows, darker skin would be more advantageous for sneaking around and staying hidden. Predators would be less likely to see you if they rely on visual senses. Very similar to the classic story of moths during Industrial Age England.

A third explanation is simply based on natural selection. Suppose Elves at one time were as diverse in coloration as humans. If the groups were seperated by skin color, in a thousand years you'll have predominantly dark-skinned Elves and predominantly light-skinned ones. Why would such an event occur? Use your imaginations. :)

Yet another explanation, again related to the moss, is that Drow are... photosynthetic in a way. Perhaps Drow physiology takes light shed from that moss to fuel their bodies, much like a plant's chlorophyll green coloring takes energy from the sun and converts it to something useful. Suppose the Drow produce another agressive neurochemical by this method. An incursion and occupation into the overworld eventually pacified the rogue Drow, who eventually lost the ability to process the moss-light altogether.

And a final, editted in explanation. Suppose rage in Elves causes a chemical like adrenaline to be produced. Instead of being broken down like a human does, suppose this isn't broken down, or is broken down incompletely. This chemical is stored in the blood stream and nearby cells, resulting in a dark pigmentation to the skin, and also increases the aggressiveness and physical strength of the Elves as they lose control more and more.
 
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