TSR Darlene tells NuTSR NO!

The artist Darlene, who designed one of the original TSR logos that TSR3.5 is currently using, has emphatically and publicly refused to endorse the company's use of the logo. Darlene's work appeared in early Dungeons & Dragons materials, and included the full-color map in 1980's World of Greyhawk. In December, I finally reviewed the contract Justin LaNasa (JL) wanted me to sign. That’s...

The artist Darlene, who designed one of the original TSR logos that TSR3.5 is currently using, has emphatically and publicly refused to endorse the company's use of the logo.

Darlene's work appeared in early Dungeons & Dragons materials, and included the full-color map in 1980's World of Greyhawk.

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In December, I finally reviewed the contract Justin LaNasa (JL) wanted me to sign. That’s when I took a stand and gave this answer: “I prefer not to be directly involved in any way with your lawsuit against WOTC. Therefore, I do not give permission to use the Wizard-head logo."

For the longest time, I tried to remain neutral, aloof, and unaffected. I wanted to avoid being associated with the bombastic claims of the new TSR.

JL first responded with a denial: “We were not planning on having you in the lawsuit this is why we ask for your permission.” Then a guilt trip: “We really tried to bring back something good with TSR.” Then played the underdog card: “it seems like WOTC and their supporters have a lot of fear and sway amongst the industry.”

It’s upsetting if JL thought I would be stupid enough to sign a contract without reading or comprehending it. In my response, I referred him to item #3 which obligates me to defend his position in his WOTC lawsuit. 


The pressure they are putting on me to reconsider has increased. Ernie Gygax thinks granting my permission for them to use the logo—which, btw, they are already using anyway—is key for their successful arbitration. He intimated if I don’t give in, sign away my rights and take their money, I’d be hurting some people I really care about. He also suggested I can “up the ante” for double the amount initially offered.

JL has since amicably proposed to work out a contract that excludes me from the lawsuit. He’s been very nice and cordial to me throughout. Nevertheless... The contract will most likely retain the first sentence where I declare that I have “not previously transferred my rights to any entity or party.” What? As I understand it, logos don’t work that way.

The most important thing to me has not been addressed. As a visual thinker and logo designer, I am very particular about the nuances of what I create. Yes, I designed the original wizard-head logo back in the ’80s. That is not in dispute. However, the logo produced as “Exhibit ‘A’” in JL’s contract is not my logo. It’s a bastardization—a greyed-out, fuzzy, lesser version—of what I designed. I detest the spindly letters used for "The Game Wizards." Ugh!

Therefore, I cannot honestly take money for it because I do not and will not claim it as mine. I’m extremely picky about choosing my clients. Before I would consider designing a new logo for the new TSR, they would have to demonstrate ethical behavior as a business entity.

Ever since they appeared on the scene, the new TSR has been plucking the heartstrings of those who fondly remember the good ole days when the hobby was in its infancy. JL’s lofty words: “to honor and remember TSR, the Dragon, Gary and all the alumni of the old days of gaming” sound inspiring. But I remain unmoved. I never want to return to Lake Geneva to relive those “good old days."


If I were to endorse the new TSR, they have to correct the mistakes of the old TSR. They must be kinder and more generous to artists and authors in their employ. They would show proper respect, listen to, and honor women, both within the gaming field and as consumers. They would be more inclusive and sensitive enough to address the needs of individuals beyond the white male demographic. They would be fair to their customers and transparent in their actions.


Besides, the idea of me endorsing TSR—new or old—is laughable. Not always, but in general, I did not have a positive experience freelancing for TSR. Looking from the outside in, I witnessed how the growth spurts of TSR turned it from being an “all-for-one; one-for-all” company into an uncaring corporate entity with an “us vs them” mindset. With few exceptions, success brought out the worst in those TSR people given positions of authority. I witnessed how the creatives got the brunt of TSR’s unfair predatory policies. No, I do not yearn to return to that stressful, hostile, and toxic atmosphere.


My memories of TSR are clear because they are frozen to the time I needed to leave Lake Geneva for my own mental health and well-being. I turned my back on the growing number of small-minded TSR people who created and spread malicious rumors and hurtful lies about me, made me feel unwelcome whenever I visited the building, told me my art was not very good and caused me to doubt myself and my abilities.

I left to pursue knowledge, my MFA, and the prospect of new beginnings with no intention of returning. Gary Gygax contacted me in 2005 and coaxed me back. That’s when he and I became fast friends. In the years since, I’ve discovered—for the most part— nothing much has changed for females in the gaming world (ie: gamergate). TSR’s unfair internal practices (abusing creatives financially) seem to have followed the RPG industry. How do I know? Having worked as a professional in the “real world” since 1984, I’m aware of the many disparities.


Today, I decided to publicly share my “power of no” because I recognize this as a teachable moment for the dispossessed. Charged with 42 years of suppressed emotional pain, my “no” is big and empowered. It includes “no” to bullying and unethical business practices; “no” to the unfair treatment and compensation of artists, creatives, and women; and “no” to taking advantage of the disadvantaged to profit at their expense.


My “no” is also cathartic for me. With it, I officially reclaim those lost parts of myself I abandoned so long ago. To have the courage to take this stance, my desire for money had to be relinquished. Only then could I clearly understand the implications of what saying yes meant. As tempting as a yes would be, it is ultimately disempowering.


Compromising my integrity for money is the same as selling my soul.

Therefore, I choose to continue living like I always have, modestly. I choose not to allow temporary feelings of desperation or depression to rule me nor compromise the greater truth of who I am. Perhaps I should credit JL for catalyzing my healing process and helping me demonstrate what feminine power looks like.
 

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Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Yes I think so. Wasn’t there three logos and Lana’s let one claim go? And hence no counter from WotC?

Why are we in the weeds here? Why do you seem so dead set to show WotC would be a bad actor and force Darlene to court? Almost blaming them for it?

Yeah, that line of reasoning is really bizarre.

Let's make sure we are really clear on one thing- the only reason Darlene is involved in any of this is because nuTSR is a grifting attempt to play on nostalgia, and instead of creating anything new, has decided to STEAL the IP created by other people without compensating anyone for it.

Period. Everything else is just noise.
 

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Jer

Legend
Supporter
Here is Darlene writing about the TSR moon face logo in the Wisconsin Calligraphers Guild

This is an amazing bit of retrospective and insight into the design process. Thanks for posting it here!

Some of those other logos she proposed are also amazing. The one in Figure 4 looks especially interesting.

(Also after seeing this article I see why she was so mad about the lettering on the design that LaNasa had mis-attributed to her - her calligraphy is not only as I already knew beautiful, but was also how she got into the logo design world in the first place. Of course she'd be mad to see a knock-off who didn't seem to follow/understand her intent with the lettering choices she'd made.)
 






Mistwell

Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
Yes I think so. Wasn’t there three logos and Lana’s let one claim go? And hence no counter from WotC?

Why are we in the weeds here? Why do you seem so dead set to show WotC would be a bad actor and force Darlene to court? Almost blaming them for it?
I have truly no idea how you'd ready anything I've written as "WOTC would be a bad actor and force Darlene to court? Almost blaming them for it?"

It's not me in the weeds here. It sounds like you're inserting emotions where there are zero.

Generic Company A threatens lawsuit against Generic Company B. In the process of publicly discussing said lawsuit they mention Witness A as having some baring on the support for their case. Generic Company B wishes to defend their IP rights. Generic Company A then drops their lawsuit requesting dismissal without prejudice for fear they will lose their IP rights if they lose the case. Generic Company B, facing ongoing uncertainty concerning said IP rights unless they can achieve a dismissal with prejudice, files for declaratory relief stating they are the sole owner of the IP rights. Generic Company B, by necessity of Generic Company A having previously mentioned Witness A as part of the cause for doubt about the rights, will call Witness A for a deposition to clarify that aspect of the case.

That's it. No bad actor. No "forcing" and no "blame" this is just ordinary legal litigation issues. Once NuTSR mentioned her by name, they may have forced her to be involved even if they change their mind later. Once you name someone has having information pertinent to the matter lawyers become obligated to investigate it further no matter how people "feel" about it.

If they wanted Darlene not involved in the case, they should not have mentioned Darlene in connection to the case. At this point I suspect the toothpaste is out of the bottle. And I don't blame WOTC for that at all. It's just how this stuff works.
 

Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
That's it. No bad actor. No "forcing" and no "blame" this is just ordinary legal litigation issues. Once NuTSR mentioned her by name, they may have forced her to be involved even if they change their mind later. Once you name someone has having information pertinent to the matter lawyers become obligated to investigate it further no matter how people "feel" about it.

If they wanted Darlene not involved in the case, they should not have mentioned Darlene in connection to the case. At this point I suspect the toothpaste is out of the bottle. And I don't blame WOTC for that at all. It's just how this stuff works.

Again-

1. nuTSR is knowingly and intentionally using other people's IP.

2. Once they were called out on it in a C&D letter (because of course this was going to happen), nuTSR decided to assert to a Court that WoTC doesn't own it, because Darlene does.

3. No, this is not how things normally work. Normally, a rational company doesn't simply steal IP. Because that is stupid. Then, normally a rational company when they are called out on it in a C&D letter ... actually ceases and desists. Finally, and most importantly, a rational company would not really choose to assert in a court filing that the reason they are okay is because they are stealing it from another entity (this might be fine when you're attacking a prima facie case, but it's pretty stupid in a declaratory action).

So yeah, this is entire nuTSR's fault, from the beginning until now, and not just how things normally work. Because nuTSR isn't a normal company.


EDIT- and this is before getting into the skeeviness of LaNasa's contacts with Darlene, and Ernie Gygax's attempts to pressure her into signing a contract that no one in their right mind would sign.
 


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