Demonic Lore

[BOZ]

Bill Slavicsek on Lindyrm

"Wow, that was a long time ago!

As far as I can tell, Lindrym was created just as a backstory antagonist for Deva Spark. I can't recall if I made up the name or if that was one of the things we salvaged from the original designer's manuscript. Either way, it was just used as flavor and as an impetus for the motivations of the characters in the adventure. No additional material was ever created. Though we might resurrect the name in some future product!

Bill"

i wonder who this mysterious "original designer" was...!

 

[BOZ]

Because I don't think I mentioned it before, this passage was from Monstrous Mythology:

"[Laogzed's] origins are always mythologically ascribed to the coupling of an evil god with a reptilian tanar'ri demale; sometimes Panzuriel is considered to be this monster's father, else a demented deity of darkness such as the Elder Elemental God."

 

[BOZ]

LAYER 421: SALTED WOUND (Realm of Doresain, the King of the Ghouls, vassal of Yeenoghu; Libris Mortis, name from the Mimir)
LAYER 422: THE SEEPING WOODS (Yeenoghu's realm)

BTW, i think Monte must have missed this reference when writing the BoVD. "Yeenoghu does control a layer of the Abyss, which he creatively calls Yeenoghu's Realm." (p 141) still, i like Monte's joke anyway.

 

[BOZ]

for the sake of completeness:

I believe it was simply called Yeenoghu's Realm in early Planescape products, and the name Seeping Woods only appeared in On Hallowed Ground.

"Salted Wound" is, of course, a placeholder name from the Mimir, not an official one (though Doresain does officially have a layer).

Monte was probably unaware of the OHG reference, since it was apparently the only one.

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http://p096.ezboard.com/fnecromancergamesfrm31.showMessage?topicID=518.topic

and scrolling down to about 2/3 the way down the page:

"Known as the "Demon Lord of Gnolls," this 12 feet tall gnoll-like demon lord rules the 421st layer of the Abyss known as Salted Wound, the 422nd layer knwon as the Seeping Woods, and the 423rd layer known as the Smouldering Waste (under the auspices of the Gnoll Lord's minion Zalintar ). Yeenoghu has a stronghold the size of a city which is pulled by slaves as it slowly cross the barren salt wastes of his layers on colossal rollers."

 

[Alzrius]

BOZ, does that website prove anything? It's not a canon source.

 

[Ripzerai]

The bit about Yeenoghu's slave-powered roller city is from the 1st edition Manual of the Planes (which is where the description, though not the name, of Salted Wound comes from).

The bit about Zelintar is from the long-defunct Planescape.com fansite.

 

[BOZ]

BOZ, does that website prove anything? It's not a canon source.

it proves nothing at all. i just thought it was interesting to look at. and rip says part of it is official anyway, so we're all the better for that.

 

[BOZ]

don't know if all of this from Dragon was mentioned previously:

289 - Abyssal maw (The Gnolls of Naresh, Chris Pramas)
295 - Cataboligne demon (Monstrous Denizens of Oerth, Sean K. Reynolds)
298 - Aracholoth, brood mother, proxy of Lolth, spiderleg horror (The Punishments of Lolth, Eric Cagle)
312 - Demon, turagathshnee; demon lord, Turaglas (The Ebon Maw: Beware the Waking Hunger, Ari Marmell)

 

[BOZ]

Ray Vallese on Zzyczesiya

here is the last of the responses on the topic of obscure Planescape demon lords.

"Hi, BOZ -

Monte forwarded your question to me. Sorry that it took me awhile to respond!

I probably did add that reference to Faces of Evil, since I wrote most of Xanxost's narrative. And you may already suspect this answer, but it was a throwaway name. I just wanted an Abyssal lord who sounded like he'd definitely come at the end of the alphabet. I didn't come up with any kind of description or backstory on the guy (or girl, or thing). Anyway, Xanxost wasn't the most reliable narrator, so he might have been confused and garbled up some existing lord's name.

In fact, if all you're looking for is some semi-official confirmation on Z., why not go with that -- scholars who've read Faces of Evil believe it to be a misstatement by Xanxost, which would hardly be surprising, but then again, the Abyss is endless, so who knows for sure?

Or, if you prefer, feel free to make up whatever details you like about the lord. That's what I used to do a lot as a Planescape designer -- latch onto some small throwaway line written by Colin or Monte or someone else and spin it into some big new thing. I liked the sense of continuity when tiny things carried over from book to book.

I hope this helps.

Ray Vallese"

 

[Evilhalfling]

Two general questions -

1 is there a demon lord affiliated with dragons?
- my campaign world needs a second demonlord influenceing events. Demegorgon is getting over used. Its on a archipeligo with jungles. Dragons have overrun the surface, and there are none of the races affiliated with other demonlords.

2. why do Yugoloths lack portfolios? Demons mostly have races, devils have vices. The only yugoloth with a portfolio was Aranthax - and even he is gone.

2b- what does a yugoloth use for mortal servants - lacking both an ideology and a slave race doesn't leave obvious choices (although that may be on purpose.)