Demonic Lore

[Alzrius]

It's kind of disappointing, isn't it? It looked for a minute like a whole new Abyssal lord was out there, and it turned out to be just another lich. If you make her into an Abyssal lord I won't complain.

I don't see a problem with having a lich be the creator of vargouilles. There's already dozens of Abyssal Lords out there who are name-only. Having another one seems rather bland; at least there aren't quite as many Abyss-dwelling liches out there.

I took Eriks' "er, nevermind" to be in regards to his asking for a source and then realizing you'd already cited it.

 

[Grover Cleaveland]

That's true, and Rozvankee could be pretty interesting if she were fleshed out, even if she's "just" a lich.

 

[GVDammerung]

You might find the following URL interesting -

http://www.concentric.net/~slposey/Games/WD-Dealing_with_Demons.pdf

Please note the "Dungeoneering with Demons" conversion to AD&D and conversion notes from Best of White Dwarf No. 3. If there is a question about "officiality," one might reflect on the relationship between the WD Fiend Factory and the contents of the Fiend Folio, if the mere use of the IP is insufficient.

 

[Grover Cleaveland]

You might find the following URL interesting -

http://www.concentric.net/~slposey/Games/WD-Dealing_with_Demons.pdf

That's really cool stuff. "Eldyr is overlord of Incubi, Succubi, and Gremlins." Even though it's Runequest, I feel somehow vindicated by that. Oh, and then there are AD&D conversions.

 

[BOZ]

it is neat, but is it useful? that is to say, who owns the copyright? if it's anyone other than WotC, then when designing a book one is better off not even looking at it at all.

 

[BOZ]

i have struck again!

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=154911

 

[Ripzerai]

Does anyone have any of Mayfair's old demon-themed supplements for their RoleAids line? They ought to be fair game, considering Mayfair is owned by Hasbro now (and I believe Mayfair gave the rights to the RoleAids to TSR after a 1990s lawsuit anyway).

 

[Alzrius]

Does anyone have any of Mayfair's old demon-themed supplements for their RoleAids line? They ought to be fair game, considering Mayfair is owned by Hasbro now (and I believe Mayfair gave the rights to the RoleAids to TSR after a 1990s lawsuit anyway).

The idea may be worth merit, but it strikes me as being "iffy." For one thing, I'm not sure if those supplements work with the existing planar structure (I don't have any of them). For another, that lawsuit is pretty famous, but it didn't kill the Role Aids line. What happened was that TSR simply bought the line later. However, that may not necessarily extend to previously-published products, and Mayfair is still around to sue anyone who uses their IP without their permission.

 

[Ripzerai]

It seems unlikely that one branch of Hasbro would sue another, but I don't pretend to understand all the machinations of the corporate world.

 

[BOZ]

it may warp your fragile human mind in ways that talking about infinite planes and incomprehensible evil beings of indescribable power may not.