Did Gygax owe a bit of thanks to WotC?

[Raven Crowking]

I wouldn't say you owed him any thanks. I would say it is up to you personally to decide if the enjoyment you gained made you feel like thanking him.

Well said.

 

[Ariosto]

If you had asked, "Did Bullgrit owe a bit of thanks to WotC?", then I don't think so many people would have given a hill of beans either way.

Put the name Gygax in the title, though, and you've "sold" about 2,600 viewings so far.

 

[Bullgrit]

Put the name Gygax in the title, though, and you've "sold" about 2,600 viewings so far.

"Sold"? You think I invoked his name to get viewings on a discussion? Really? You're really stretching. . . something.

Bullgrit

 

[Odhanan]

"Sold"? You think I invoked his name to get viewings on a discussion? Really? You're really stretching. . . something.

Bullgrit

I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at with your OP, though. It seems that there is a point to it, but it remains absent, like you're trying to "prove" or "get at" something by saying that EGG should be thankful towards WotC and today's D&D.

So... what is your point, if any?

 

[zacharythefirst]

"Need"? Dude, "needs" are things like food, water, oxygen, and shelter. Except perhaps in terms of the well-being of various employees, nothing in gaming is "needed".

So, I'd say need has little to do with it. Nobody "needs" accolades. Does that mean someone shouldn't be given them when they deserve it?

It comes down to this - should we not give credit where credit is due?

If you mean credit, dude, for the most regoddamdiculous thread to ever grace the slow-loading tomes of ENWorld history, why yes, yes we should.

 

[The Little Raven]

No. Gary didn't owe WotC thanks. While he might not have been front-page RPG news all the time, one cannot talk about the genre without thinking about or referencing Gygax. I mean, we've had the term "gygaxian" around for at least the past couple decades.

On the other hand, WotC didn't owe Gary anything, which made their settlement with him, noting him as one of the original creators of the game (I believe 2e was lacking this note), and the dedication in 4e all cool moves on WotC's part.

 

[Bullgrit]

I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at with your OP, though. It seems that there is a point to it, but it remains absent, like you're trying to "prove" or "get at" something by saying that EGG should be thankful towards WotC and today's D&D.

So... what is your point, if any?

Maybe it's because I'm narcissistic, and only pay attention to the replies to my own posts, but I never see other people get questioned about their "point" when they ask a question. I asked a question. I gave my point of view, and then I asked for others' view.

I find it ironic that Gygax is apparently considered highly honorable for stating his honest opinions on other people and things, even when very negative. But anyone who even suggests something negative about Gygax is considered awful.

Bullgrit

 

[darkseraphim]

Short answer: No.

Long answer: I said no.

 

[Ourph]

I find it ironic that Gygax is apparently considered highly honorable for stating his honest opinions on other people and things, even when very negative. But anyone who even suggests something negative about Gygax is considered awful.

Gary caught plenty of flak for stating his strong opinions about things. Heck, there are people who still rant and rave about things he wrote in Dragon 30 years ago. So don't worry, you're in good company.

 

[Odhanan]

I find it ironic that Gygax is apparently considered highly honorable for stating his honest opinions on other people and things, even when very negative. But anyone who even suggests something negative about Gygax is considered awful.

Bullgrit

Just providing feedback on your OP. I'm sorry you took offense. It's just that it seems there's an actual point to your argument, and I was asking you about it. I would appreciate an answer, if you have one: were you trying to get at something you didn't directly mention in your OP? Was there a point to it?

Thank you!