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Rhialto said:
I will not even dignify that with a response. :rolleyes:

Gotcha.
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Um...could we get back on track

I have just read through a page and a half of nothingness. I was hoping for more discussion of things from the movie. Things people saw or noticed, I don't want to sift through pages of immature posturing.

Please unless you have something nice, or on topic to say, don't say anything at all, or take it private.

Lady Starhawk
 

When Bilbo drops the ring (when he leaves after his party) it doesn't ring like a piece of metal, but thumps onto the ground, perhaps signifying the huge weight it represents. I liked that touch.

(Is that ok Lady Starhawk?:( )
 

NoOneofConsequence said:
When Bilbo drops the ring (when he leaves after his party) it doesn't ring like a piece of metal, but thumps onto the ground, perhaps signifying the huge weight it represents. I liked that touch.

The sound isn't so much what got me. It was the fact that it just didn't bounce. How freaky is that, to see this tiny little ring not bounce? Creepy. :)
 

I'm wearing the preconceived notion of underwear.

Seriously, there IS a car there, but it's not the thing smoking. Near the end of that scene in the movie, I clearly saw something moving really quickly, and unless houses move it was a car.

Here's something: When the Company is approaching the Argonath, the statue on the right (the one holding Narsil) has its left arm stuck out. When the Company has passed them and you're seeing their back, that same statue has its right arm stuck out.
 

From the IMdB's fun "Goofs" page:

Revealing mistakes: ...but more likely "incorrectly regarded as goof". On the film's first theatrical release, a story circulated (reported here) that when Sam tells Frodo that he is now the farthest he has ever been from home, a car is visible driving by in the background (top-right corner of the screen). Arguments ensued. Some said it was smoke from a chimney, others said they saw the glint of sunlight reflected from the windscreen of a fast moving vehicle. In the version of the film released on DVD there is definitely *no* car, only chimney smoke and a one-frame flash of light which *could* conceivably be a car, but not in any sense that could be considered a goof. The original spotting remains unconfirmed, and seems thoroughly unlikely, but we nevertheless report it here because of the enormous interest it sparked at the time.


Revealing mistakes: When Frodo trips and falls on the mountain, he reveals his prosthetic foot - it does not match the color of his leg and you can see the line where his real leg meets the fake foot.


Incorrectly regarded as goofs: Gimli attempts to smash the ring with an axe which is completely destroyed, breaking into several pieces. In the next shot the pieces are missing and, when he pledges his axe to Frodo several minutes later, the axe is suddenly intact. In fact, he snatches the axe of the dwarf next to him to attack the ring. This doesn't explain the missing pieces, but does leave his own axe intact to be pledged later.


Revealing mistakes: As Frodo runs from the orcs, his cape is clearly supported by a string to make it look flowing.


Continuity: As Boromir lies dying, Aragorn leans over him. In the shots over Aragorn's shoulder, looking at Boromir, Boromir's right hand rests on Aragorn's left shoulder. In shots looking at Aragorn, the hand is not there.


Continuity: While the four hobbits (Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin) are at The Prancing Pony in Bree, Merry returns from the bar with a pint and Pippin takes off to get his own. When the angle changes to an over-head shot, Merry is no longer at the table and Pippin is suddenly back in place. This was obviously a shot that carried over from the previous scene (prior to Merry's return from the bar).


Continuity: When Sam reveals to Gandalf what he overheard of Gandalf's and Frodo's conversation, a map disappears and reappears under his right shoulder.


Continuity: When Gandalf takes the ring out of the fire, the position of the clamp around the ring changes between shots.


Audio/visual unsynchronised: When Arwen and Aragorn are alone together on a bridge in Rivendell, her lips are moving while he is speaking.


Audio/visual unsynchronised: In the dwarf mine, when Gandalf sits outside the three doorways and talks to Frodo, Frodo's close-ups are taken from reaction shots to Gandalf's speech so that we see Gandalf's beard moving as if he was talking, even though no sound is heard.


Continuity: Aragon removes his hand twice from his sword as he talks to Boromir on the mountain. (Once in the wide shot and the second time in close-up).


Revealing mistakes: As Aragorn leads the Hobbits through the woods after leaving Bree, the pack on his back bumps the camera.


Continuity: Throughout the movie, Frodo's fingernails are very bitten down and short, but a close-up when the Black Rider tries to sniff him out shows neatly manicured nails.


Continuity: The positions of Gimli's axes as he stands in Balin's tomb.


Revealing mistakes: When the Dark Rider asks the Hobbit for the way to Hobbiton, the Hobbit's shadow and the Rider's shadow come from different directions.


Revealing mistakes: The forced perspective trick becomes visible while Gandalf and Bilbo are having tea. As Bilbo is pottering about, Gandalf sits on a Hobbit-sized chair at a table that is too small for him. As he shuffles slightly to get comfortable, his knees move the table, but only his, smaller, half moves - the other half, where Bilbo is seated, is further away from the camera, and stays put. It can be seen that this gap between the two table "halves" is concealed behind cleverly placed, bottles, plates, etc. Then, when Bilbo is about to pour hot water in the teapot, Gandalf lifts the teapot lid for him. The lid is not on the teapot, but placed on a spike nearer to the camera to create the forced perspective. It is also clearly visible when Gandalf puts the lid back.


Continuity: Gandalf's belt repeatedly switches between being tied and untied as he speaks to Bilbo.


Continuity: At the ford, the Black Riders draw their swords with their left hands, but in the next shot they are shown holding them in their right hands. This left-right-left swapping continues between shots until they are washed away.


Continuity: The rope handle of Gandalf's staff jumps around his hand between cuts during his meeting with Saruman.


Continuity: When Gandalf first appears riding on his cart, there is a long grey-green cloth hanging from the lantern on the right-hand side of the cart, with Gandalf's staff on the left. In the next shot, the lantern and cloth have switched sides with the staff (which itself moves back and forth between shots as Gandalf and Frodo travel into the village). It would seem that the first shot has been flipped so that the "road" bends round to the left to match the curve of the road as Gandalf approaches Frodo in the next shot.


Audio/visual unsynchronised: As Saruman reveals the Palantir to Gandalf, he lifts the cloth while speaking the line "Why should we fear to use it?" As he finishes the line, his mouth is still moving.


Revealing mistakes: After the huge orc battle, one of the "dead" orcs sits up and has a good look round before lying back down. This has been explained away in all manner of different ways, but it strikes a sufficient number of viewers as incongruous that it seems more likely to be a genuine error than not.


Revealing mistakes: When the Black Rider comes into shot while the hobbits are hiding under the tree-roots, he appears on the left-hand side of the tree without first being visible on the right-hand side. It has been suggested that this effect was intentionally included to make the wraith's first appearance seem alarming, but it still doesn't really make much sense.


Continuity: When Frodo is taken by the water creature outside the mine, he is not wearing his hairy Hobbit feet.


Continuity: As the Fellowship approaches the two giant statues of the kings on the river, both kings have their left arms extended. Once the boats have passed and we look back, it appears as though the statue now on our left has his right arm extended. Indeed, from the angle of his head, it could be said that the statue on the right also has his right arm extended. Some have argued that there is no error and it is merely the camera angle that makes it look wrong.


Continuity: When Gandalf is saying goodbye to Bilbo outside Bag End the night of the party, the front door is as wide open as it can get. It stays wide open throughout their conversation outside and shows no indication in scenes before or after of being a self-closer. After Bilbo has gone, Gandalf returns to the house and opens the (as far as we know) already open door.
 

And from the same source, interesting trivia:

Stuart Townsend. was originally cast as Aragorn, but was replaced with Viggo Mortensen after four days of shooting due to creative differences.


Ian Holm, who plays Bilbo Baggins, was the voice of Frodo Baggins in the classic BBC Radio adaptation of "The Lord of The Rings" in the 1970s.


Producer Tim Sanders (I) left the project after principal photography had commenced.


Elijah Wood donned hobbit-forming breeches and a flowing shirt and took to the hills for his LOTR audition tape. He even recruited buddy George Huang, writer and director of the Hollywood satire Swimming with Sharks (1994), to direct him.


Although David Bowie was said to be keen on playing Elf Lord Elrond, the part went instead to Hugo Weaving.


Daniel Day-Lewis turned down the role of Aragorn.


New Zealand's army was cast as extras for large battle scenes in the film, but was forced to back out due to having to serve as peacekeepers in East Timor.


When the trailer was released on Internet on 7 April 2001, it was downloaded 1.6 million times in the first 24 hours.


The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001), Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, The (2002), and Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, The (2003) were filmed simultaneously. The back-to-back shoot lasted a record-equaling 274 days, in 16 months - exactly the same time as taken for the principal photography of Apocalypse Now (1979).


Hobbiton was filmed in the Hinuera Valley near Matamata, New Zealand. The village was constructed and plants and trees were planted a year before filming so the set had an aged look as though Hobbits had lived there for hundreds of years.


For high-tech tasks, a computer program called MASSIVE made armies of CG orcs, elves, and humans. These digital creations could 'think' and battle independently - identifying friend or foe - thanks to individual fields of vision. Jackson's team could click on one creature in a crowd scene of 20,000 and see through his "eyes". Different species even boast unique fighting styles.


It is reported that on the first run of the fight sequences using the MASSIVE Artificial Intelligence program, the intelligent fighters - programmed to fight in the most efficient manner possible
all turned and ran away.



The original cut ran four hours and thirty minutes.


The hobbits needed to appear about three to four feet tall - tiny compared with the seven-foot Gandalf. This was often accomplished using forced perspective, placing Ian McKellen (Gandalf) consistently closer to the camera than Elijah Wood in order to trick the eye into thinking McKellen is towering.


In order to make "forced perspective" a bit more interesting, the filmmakers devised a totally new system consisting of a pulley and a platform. When the camera moved (which is normally impossible as the forced perspective would become obvious) the actor(s) also moved, and the perspective (7-foot Gandalf - 4-foot hobbits) would always be okay. They also used three differently sized props (large, medium, small) to interact with the different sized characters


Viggo Mortensen lost a tooth while filming a fight sequence. He went to the dentist on his lunch break, had it patched up, and returned to the set that afternoon.


1,460 eggs were served to the cast and crew for breakfast for every day of shooting.


More than 1,600 pairs of latex ears and feet were used during the shoot, each "cooked" in a special oven running 24 hours a day, seven days a week. There was no way of removing the feet at the end of the day without damaging them and so each pair could only be used once. The used feet were shredded to prevent a black market in stolen hobbit feet but apparently Dominic Monaghan (Merry) kept a pair.


During filming, Liv Tyler left her pair of prosthetic ears on the dashboard of her car. When she returned they had melted.


Dominic Monaghan (Merry), wore a fat suit made of foam. He drank three liters of water a day so he would not dehydrate.


Sean Astin gained 30 pounds for his role as Samwise.


Viggo Mortensen did his own stunts.


Orlando Bloom (Legolas) did most of his own stunts and broke a rib in the process.


John Rhys-Davies (Gimli) developed an allergic reaction to his makeup.


While filming the scene where Sam rushes through the river after Frodo, Sean Astin stepped on a branch that was sticking up from the riverbed. It pierced his foot, even through the prosthetic foot, which bled so much he had to be airlifted to hospital.


Liv Tyler had trouble with her lines in Elvish and was unable to film a whole scene in one go, instead having to learn the dialogue one line at a time.


The map Gandalf picks up in Bilbo's study is a reproduction of the map Tolkien drew for the book "The Hobbit", the prequel to the Fellowship of the Ring.


Sean Bean starred in a UK TV series as a soldier during the Napoleonic wars by the name of Richard Sharpe. He subsequently appeared in a series of commercials where he would allude to his earlier role, saying things like, "Sharpe idea". In this movie he continues the joke: after touching the Sword of Elendil he says, "Still Sharpe.''


Christopher Lee reads "The Lord of the Rings" once a year and is the only member of the cast and crew ever to have met Tolkien.


As well as being the only member of the cast and crew to have met Tolkien face to face, Christopher Lee was also the first person to be cast in the trilogy because of his extensive knowledge of the books. He frequently visited the makeup department and often gave tips about the facial design of the monsters.


Eight of the nine members of the Fellowship got a small tattoo, the Elvish symbol for "9" at a tattoo parlor in Wellington, New Zealand, to commemorate the experience of the movie. The ninth member, John Rhys-Davies, declined and sent his stunt double in his place. Elijah Wood's tattoo is on his lower stomach. Two of the other hobbits have the tattoo on their ankles (to commemorate all those hours in the hobbit feet). Orlando Bloom, who plays the archer elf Legolas, has his on his forearm. Ian McKellen's is on his shoulder.


After the New Zealand premiere, director Peter Jackson joined the actors who played the nine members of the Fellowship in getting a commemorative tattoo. While their tattoos were the Elvish symbol for "9", Jackson received an Elvish "10".


The chapter titles "A Long-expected Party", "A Short Cut to Mushrooms", "The Bridge of Khazad-dum", "Lothlorien", and "The Breaking of the Fellowship" from "The Fellowship of The Ring" are spoken lines at their respective points in the storyline with the exception of "The Breaking of The Fellowship" which is foreshadowed during the scene at "The Mirror of Galadriel". "Riddles In The Dark" is also mentioned - the name of a chapter from "The Hobbit".


Peter Jackson gave the ring used in the movies to Elijah Wood as gift when the shoot was finished.


The three trolls which were turned to stone in "The Hobbit" are in the background during the scene where Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, and Strider/Aragorn are resting after fleeing from Weathertop/Amon Sul.


During the 2001 Cannes Film Festival, twenty minutes of the film was shown to a crowd at a nearby castle, including members of the production - the first time the film's actors had seen any completed footage.


Wellington, the capital of New Zealand, changed its name to Middle Earth for the film's opening.


This film was the first recipient of The American Film Institute's Movie of the Year Award.


Peter Jackson's two children are listed in the end credits as "Cute Hobbit Children".


The original plan was to film "The Hobbit" starring Warwick Davis. But when Miramax balked at the $75 million dollar price tag Peter Jackson took it to New Line which gave him nearly $300 million to make the trilogy


Cate Blanchett joked that she took the role of Galadriel because, "I've always wanted pointy ears".


Director Cameo: [Peter Jackson] As the belching peasant, outside the Prancing Pony Inn in Bree.


Ian McKellen based Gandalf's accent on that of Tolkien himself.


Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn), who is trilingual in English, Spanish, and Danish, requested the script be revised to let Aragorn speak more of his lines in Elvish.


The Orc blacksmiths shown beneath Isengard are actually the WETA Workshop staff who made the weapons used in the film.


The Elvish language lines spoken in the film are not just quotes from the book, they were derived from Tolkien's own limited dictionary of that language. Dialect coach Andrew Jack used actual recordings of Tolkien reading his books to guide the actors' pronunciation.


Cameo (Alan Lee (II)): Eighth of the human kings that receives a ring of power.


The different colors of blue for the elves' eyes revealed what race they were. The Lothlorien elves had light blue eyes, and the Rivendell elves were dark blue.
 

Piratecat said:

Stuart Townsend. was originally cast as Aragorn, but was replaced with Viggo Mortensen after four days of shooting due to creative differences.
Do you mean the guy who played the vampire Lestat with the late Aaliyah in Queen of the Damned?

Personally, he wouldn't fit in well with Liv Tyler, nor bearing the title of Isildur's Heir, soon to be King of Gondor and of Men.
 

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