Disappointing Trends in Movies

Finster said:
Other than that, my biggest movie pet peeve is people running away from explosions. Explosions are FAST, that's why they are deadly. If this was possible, all a demolition tech would need is a good pair of sneakers. I once saw a movie where a guy rode a motorcycle away from a nuclear detonation. :confused: I can't suspend disbelief when I see this, sorry.

Are you also annoyed that movie explosions are done with slow explosives, while in reality most military explosives are fast? Those huge gasoline explosions are cinematic, and real explosions would be impossible to capture well on camera, or they would look like crap. But I get your peeve.

Another peeve just game to mind - inconsistent effects in (especially) war movies. Wind talkers was the worst. Sometimes grenades made small puffs, then grenades of the same side made huge gasoline explosions. Another one is that the good side throws a grenade, it always explodes immediately. The other side hasn't been in basic training, and always throw too early, giving the good side time to throw them back.
 

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Numion said:
Are you also annoyed that movie explosions are done with slow explosives, while in reality most military explosives are fast? Those huge gasoline explosions are cinematic, and real explosions would be impossible to capture well on camera, or they would look like crap. But I get your peeve.

Good point, Numion. Real-world physics wouldn't be much fun to watch. For instance, Superman wouldn't be able to lift a tanker unless his butt was made of lead. :D

The same thing is true about the serial killer movies Elemental mentions. It annoys me, too, that movie serial killers are always ten steps ahead of the police. But a movie about most real serial killers would be boring.
 

sniffles said:
Good point, Numion. Real-world physics wouldn't be much fun to watch. For instance, Superman wouldn't be able to lift a tanker unless his butt was made of lead. :D

The same thing is true about the serial killer movies Elemental mentions. It annoys me, too, that movie serial killers are always ten steps ahead of the police. But a movie about most real serial killers would be boring.

I agree, as we all have seen before, real world munitions aren't really entertaining. Anyone remember "Shock and Awe"? Yeah, boring as hell even though the Pentagon boys talked it up to be a spectacle. I for one am glad most movies aren't "realistic". I live the real life, I see it every day on TV news. Why the hell yould I want my entertainment (along with my 8-10 bucks I shell out) to reflect that?

As for what Elemental says, yeah all the movie villians (mostly serial killers) have an intellect beyond most of the good guys understanding, but would you rather watch a movie where they catch the guy in the first 10 minutes and you get to watch and hour and a half of credits? Or would you rather see the good guys earn their keep and catch that insidious bad guy who gives you every reason to cheer for said good guys and dislike (maybe even hate if you want to invest that much emtion into it) him vehemently? Stupid villains die quick and boring deaths.

Actually, the recent trend in movies these days is for the rough and tumble bad-ass good girl, BTW.
 

Really, the only thing that bothers me are little kids when its obvious they're only there because the parents wanted to see the movie. I don't ever blame the kids, though, as it isn't the 3 year old's fault they can't sit still/quiet for two(or even just one) hour.

Other than that, though, not much bothers me. Jerky cameras, slow explosions, etc are all stylistic things that I've never really had a problem with, even in the movies that many of you say they were done badly(I enjoyed the Batman Begins and Bourne Supremecy fights). But that really is all a matter of style, and something you can be warned about ahead of time if you don't like it...parents with young kids that can't be quiet, though? Nope, no way to avoid that, it seems.
 

Hmmm well as far as the jerky camera thing, I have noticed and been annoyed by that from time to time, but I couldnt really cite examples...and some times it seems to be ok.


I seem to be at odds with most here as far as the portrayl of children in movies. In my experience children in movies are almost always portrayed as being spoiled, bratty, whiny, obnoxious, selfish and stupid and this annoys me a great deal as it is inaccurate. Its frequently been my experience that some kids are better behaved and more sensible than many "adults".

as a gay male, I find it annoying that movies will include nudity of one degree or other and/or other forms of erotic scenes involving young women to appeal to middle aged straight men and straight teenage boys, but for some reason its unacceptable to include similar scenes with young males to appeal to gay guys (or those straight women who find such visual...stimulas...appealing)


The general tendency of western cinema to avoid any sort of mystery, or misdirection or to leave anything unexplained and instead spoon feed the (often inconsistant) details to the audience to be sure they know exactly what is happening at all times (the fact that it does not do that is one of the reasons I love Anime so much). This issue of course tends to come up especially frequently in fantasy/horror/sci fi


Tacked on love interests are very tiring (especially in LOTR)

All the various male and female sterotypes, if not used in some meaningful context, are very annoying.

Again from a gay male perspective the almost total lack of deccent gay characters or storylines, especially in the F/SF/H genre is very irritating.


There are others but thats what springs to mind at present.
 

I have a suggestion for you all of you: Watch some foreign movies. You are constantly mentioning Saving Private Ryan, Gladiator, Pearl Harbor, Batman Begins etc. No wonder you get tired of the same old, these are all hollywood movies! Not exactly known for innovation there.

A few newer ones with rave reviews:

Mar adentro, various: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0369702/
La Meglio gioventù, Italy: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0346336/
Diarios de motocicletea, various: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0318462/
Ong bak: Thailand: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0368909/
The Last Casino: Canada (!): http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0419909/
Elling: Norway: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0279064/
Millions: UK: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0366777/
Taegukgi hwinalrimyeo: Korea, http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0386064/
 

Trouble is 1) I dont like subtitles 2) I dont usualy care for non genre movies.


But I get what your saying. Thats why I watch (dubbed) Anime.
 

Ong Bak is awesome. I really like martial arts movies where I feel that the fighters are in real danger. Is that sadistic? Maybe.
 

Merlion said:
I seem to be at odds with most here as far as the portrayl of children in movies. In my experience children in movies are almost always portrayed as being spoiled, bratty, whiny, obnoxious, selfish and stupid and this annoys me a great deal as it is inaccurate. Its frequently been my experience that some kids are better behaved and more sensible than many "adults".

Well I think we are all right to an extent. I think that Hollywood tends to (generally) portray children as either rude, obnoxious idiots or posessing wisdom exceeding most adults. I think the reality of children is missed alltogether. Children's minds are sponges. They have a capacity to absorb a great amount of information. They also tend to see the world minus the pretentions manufactured by adults and have no compunctions about speaking the truth as they see it. However, they lack the deductive reasoning and basic life experience to make sound responsible decisions. Off the top of my head, I'd say some examples of movies where children are portrayed fairly accurately are The Sixth Sense, Jerry MacGuire, Finding Nemo (albeit a fish child) and 13 (although that is a more extreme case).

Merlion said:
... as a gay male, I find it annoying that movies will include nudity of one degree or other and/or other forms of erotic scenes involving young women to appeal to middle aged straight men and straight teenage boys, but for some reason its unacceptable to include similar scenes with young males to appeal to gay guys (or those straight women who find such visual...stimulas...appealing)

Obviously you haven't seen Troy.
 

Shaky cam - it works in only a few movies. In some it's actually a PREFERRABLE style - depending on what the film is attempting to achieve or demonstrate. Be sure to differentiate between hand-held camera work and fast-cut. Example - The Blair Witch Project is possibly where it really started to become overused. It worked in BWP because it was supposed to BE hand-held camera work and although the movie itself got rather tedious and forced it was a GOOD decision to stick to the live-documentary-footage style.

Fast-cut action - I HATE IT WITH A BURNING SOUL-CONSUMING PASSION. As others have noted it really does seem that it's used only to eliminate the need to actually choreograph fight scenes. I imagine that filmmakers convince themselves that it's an effective technique to convey a sense of excitement and fast-movement. It might have been true if used sparingly but it's used so indiscriminately, pointlessly, and excessively that it never had a chance to actually be a viable technique. It's this technique rather than hand-held camera work that gives me a headache.

Distortion and motion blur - another related technique, often used with hand-held cameras and fast cuts. It's that technique that tends to imply phychadelic drugs, severe mental confusion, etc. that consists of fast pans, vibration, and blurred or washed/altered colors. In a movie like Man on Fire it works (even if still overused) because it does effectively communicate some of the mental state of the main character. But it, too, is a technique that is used excessively and without regard for actually achieving a particular, meaningful effect.

Villains or ANYONE/ANYTHING that suddenly gets up again for a final "scare" when it's supposed to be dead is EXECESSIVELY pathetic filmmaking and I give really severe demerits to any film that tries it.

Hero's leaps - you know those amazing, Carl-Lewis-wannabe, slo-motion, amazing leaps from one building to another, one cliff to another or across any gap that is obviously a realistic impossibility. Often done in conjuction with "outrunning the explosion".

Outrunning the Explosion - in slow-motion apparantly people can actually move faster than even nuclear-detonation thermodynamic reactions. Again, rampant over-use has now rendered it a pathetic device that we simply have to put up with. No filmmaker is now going to show you the hero crashing out a window and falling into the water below and THEN having the window explode outward in a ball of flame. No, the expanding fireball must nip at the heels of the escaping hero, or even close rapidly upon him, all the way down the corridor, through the shattering window and then finally whoosh just over his head as his ballistic downward arc puts him below the windowsill - and the flame will expand up and out but never down. Somewhere back in time the movie industry simply decided that gasoline flames are the ONLY suitable form of explosion for film. Every car that goes over a cliff explodes ON THE WAY DOWN in a ball of flame although it's just been through a 15 minute chase with grenades and .50cal with minimal damage. The only movie in recent memory that seemed to go out of its way to demonstrate otherwise was Blackhawk Down. Gasoline explosions may be "cinematic" but not every explosion needs to be "cinematic".

Hero-pull. This is where the male character will PULL the female character through the entire foot-chase by the hand regardless of how capable the female is or how INcapable the male is.

Bottomless clips. Nuff said.

Shrugging off wounds that should stop a rhino. My favorite example of this is Starship Troopers when Denise Richards character Carmen gets a bug leg the size of a 4x4 through the upper chest but is perfectly capable of standing up and running out of the cave (ahead of the nuclear detonation fireball it should be noted) and indeed only a few minutes later, after many minutes of casual conversation with others walks away with a smile on her face and each of her arms around the shoulders of friends. But usually it's a slightly less eggregious display, such as just a bullet in the leg of a hero who manages to only limp a little for the remainder of the movie or chase without, like, incapacitating pain or blood loss. Still irks me though that only the bad guys ever go down with one shot in the arm

The problem with kids parts in movies is that the kids aren't KIDS. They are either wise beyond their years, foul-mouthed smart-asses, more knowledgable and better behaved than adults, or the like. Never just kids whose only real concerns are who gets chosen for kickball at recess or which Transformer is cooler and whose influence on the doings of adults should be much less relevant to most stories.

As for children in the audience at inappropriate movies - "R" in the American ratings system means, "Noone under 17 UNLESS accompanied by parent or guardien". It's an NC-17 rating that means "Noone 17 or younger PERIOD." The blame therefore is twofold. It lies with lazy, stupid adults whose pathetic parentings skills aren't really your business to call into question at a movie (unfortunately), but also with a pathetic, meaningless, ratings system that doesn't even adequately communicate superficial content like levels of violence and sexuality, much less the VASTLY MORE IMPORTANT underlying messages being communicated to children through that content.

No damn endings. In the last year or two it seems that screenwriters have completely lost the ability to write a proper END to a movie. Too many of them just suddenly seem to be OVER without a proper denouement or resolution. The writing in general is getting quite bad. Lots of lazy writers and too many execs looking to bust blocks rather than simply provide adequate entertainment. When you set out to make a blockbuster you're now almost certain to FAIL quite spectacularly and be left to wonder how simple little entertaining movies are time and again the ones that audiences end up flocking to as they stay away from "tentpoles" in droves. But I've seen a genuine trend develop where for whatever reasons there have been way too many movies that the filmmakers can't bring to a resolution.

Talkers in the audience and other inconsiderate behavior. I've got a friend who has a REALLY bad habit of talking out loud in the movies. It annoys the hell out of me sometimes and he's my friend - he must drive everyone else around us freakin' nuts. The odd thing is that noone ever tells him to pipe down. Cell phones are becoming nearly ubiquitous and people have yet to get it through their thick skulls that they need to be considerate about when and where they use them as well as turning the damned things OFF. Those little PSA's that some theater chains include in the trailers WORK. When people see "Mr. Inconsiderate Cell Phone Man!" up there again I see LOTS of people leaning over, pulling out their phones and turning them off or silencing the ringer. I know _I_ do. Just a couple days ago I had JUST gotten a new phone, forgotten to silence it before the movie started, and then had someone call me repeatedly. So there I am in the dark trying to find where the volume settings are (different than my old phone) and finally shutting it off entirely, cringing as it dingles and chimes it's way through the power-down procedure. If _I'd_ been sitting behind me I'd have been pretty annoyed.

Oh, and the theatre I go to has this one screen out of the 12 it has that I seem to keep getting stuck with. It has a blown speaker or something like that in front and they haven't gotten it fixed/replaced for several weeks now. At certain points in movies it can become very distracting as it screws up the dialogue volume/tone. Had a theater near me a couple years ago when I was still living in the Seattle area. Dead of winter and they have their AC turned down to like 60 and the fans blowing constantly. Complained repeatedly about that one too for weeks and they blew me off every time.
 

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