(Discussion) General Part VI

[Knight Otu]

Oh yeah, I'm running a vingette called "the old fashioned way" to help stave off a red Dragon riot , does anyone want to judge it?

Red Dragons? I *knew* we should not have trusted that wizard! Well, Semabin will certainly love fighting them, considering they are creatures of fire.

 

[Manzanita]

While we're at it, closing out dead DM threads, The Retrieval of Fallon's Key has died a second death. We're all ready to call it quits, I think. I estimated experience just now in a post to the thread. Last time, Creamsteak, you bailed us out, so I guess you're the judge. Perhaps you could do it again. Thanks.

Glad to see we've got some LEW discussion going again. While we're at it, can some kind judge close out the poor stranded PCs in Fallon. Especially if there's some new adventures opening...

 

[Kahuna Burger]

Glad to see we've got some LEW discussion going again. While we're at it, can some kind judge close out the poor stranded PCs in Fallon. Especially if there's some new adventures opening...

cool, iggy the halfling wizard returns... maybe I'll try "you must be this short" again as a vingette... too bad my gnome can't play in my own adventure, not sure how the Inn is currently doing on the under-tall.

Kahuna Burger

 

[Thomas Hobbes]

So, in everyones opinion, what do you think would be the best dominator style class, bard, wizard, psionicist? I would say that laster becuase you can use the powers more often, at least under the old rules, I haven't looked at the new rules yet.

I'm not terribly familiar with either set of psionics, but I do know the Bard is the prototypical "face" character. All the skills you need, a smatter of highly useful spells (such as modify memory), and bardic music (especially useful- fascinate someone, plant a suggestion, and a-way they go!).

 

[Uriel]

I'm both suprised and saddened that you considered my comments indelicate, and appologize for any distress I have singlehandedly caused you. I shall endevour not to further trouble you to such a terrible extent as I inadvertantly have in the past.

Kauna Burger

I edited my post. Go back and have a read.
Really, though, the way that the end of the Monestary game went seemed to be with you and dpdx/GP having issues, and not with you/my DMing style being an issue. I have no problem with either you, your playing style or your DMing style.
I was just caught off guard (yes, offended, but it's no big deal) at a few of the comments regarding how folks felt that my games went along at an improper pace/were too combat heavy/whatever,when I honestly don't recall such comments from them.
See what I get for posting at 4am?
Anyways, please accept my apologies for being a Twit.

-Uriel/Ron

 

[Creamsteak]

"The best is what you make of it"

and remember that using an oversized weapon requires you to use it as a size category larger (so a one-handed weapon becomes 2 handed). So that means the only way you can use an oversized weapon is if it was an oversized one-handed or light weapon, which would ramp up to a two-handed and one-handed weapon respectively. There is no using an Ogre's greatsword, by the core alone.

 

[GnomeWorks]

Hey, so I posted that the learner is done and waiting for a Judge to come on over and comment... seems that that post got lost in all the sudden hub-bub.

Anybody care to look and comment?

 

[Kahuna Burger]

I edited my post. Go back and have a read.

I read the orriginal just before work and had a fairly boring day as my days go to contemplate a response. However, I've removed it as well.

Really, though, the way that the end of the Monestary game went seemed to be with you and dpdx/GP having issues, and not with you/my DMing style being an issue. I have no problem with either you, your playing style or your DMing style.

The big deal there was a largely interpersonal and intercharacter conflict - though you and I don't have the most compatible play styles, I wouldn't consider you a bad DM by any stretch.

I was just caught off guard (yes, offended, but it's no big deal) at a few of the comments regarding how folks felt that my games went along at an improper pace/were too combat heavy/whatever,when I honestly don't recall such comments from them.

maybe I should have been more clear. IIRC, there was a concern that PCs from your adventures would outstrip others of similar "age" because they seemed to advance so much more quickly, and that starting off another adventure right after the monestary with largely the same characters could make this problem(?) worse. I don't think the person or people who raised these concerns proposed any reasons they thought your PCs advanced faster - just that they did. You made the assumption, then as now, that the cause was simply you being more on the ball as a DM and doing your job better; I recal a comment along the lines of "well, if it would help I could stop paying attention to my games and slack off a lot more" or somesuch. Since I was at the time involved in a couple of campaigns whose dms were (then at least ) equivelently responsive, but had started out their adventures with a great deal more lead time of travelling, conversing, negotiating the deal, etc, my interpretation was that your PCs advanced faster because of the combat intensity of your games as I had expereinced them, less so than your attentiveness.

When you made your post about being chastized, I confess it struck me as a bit martyr-ish (almost as if you were driven out by petty jealousy of your good DMing) and aside from this particular instance that is a powerful peeve of mine, so my response was more hotheaded, absolute and condemnatory than it should have been. I didn't intend to call you a hack'n'slasher, though it may have come out that way, but just to clarify to those that weren't there that it was the potentially unballancing results of your games that were causing concerns (I don't recal that anyone took the stance that this was a Bad Thing tm you were doing but it was a while ago) not evil LEW-ers picking on you for your DMing dedication.

Maybe this longer explaination will still offend, but I hope it brings things down to a more genteel disagreement.

See what I get for posting at 4am?
Anyways, please accept my apologies for being a Twit.

I was over the top myself and could have phrased my orriginal response a lot more diplomaticly.

Kahuna Burger

 

[Uriel]

KB: I'll just end this one by saying that I have gone back and read the last few pages of the 'Feral Battle Smackdown Royale' and I can see your point, as well as the points of the other players regarding this old wound.
That we have differing playstyles is fine, as diversity keeps things fresh.
I really didn't (don't) feel picked on, or very Martyr-like, however. Perhaps my choice of words just implied that to you.I also don't feel that anyone is picking on my DMing style.

Two points

One: It is a shae that the character (Telerin) who took that Scimitar is no longer playing, since it was pretty GP-worthy and I remember a sizable part of the discussion revolving around fair compensation for him taking it.

Two: Funny thing is,my current LEW game, the Haunted Halls of Stonepike has had very little combat, with a much larger chunk of RPing and the PCs looking around for whatever is killing the Dwarves in Stonepike.
The game had slowed (until yesterday) to a very slow crawl, as well as being very combat light.
Odd how things shift around like that.

 

[Creamsteak]

Hey, so I posted that the learner is done and waiting for a Judge to come on over and comment... seems that that post got lost in all the sudden hub-bub.

Anybody care to look and comment?

Not particularly. I want to revise the introduction thread, then some of the top-level mechanics of LEW before I start on the approval thread again. Learner is on the list, I'm sure we will look at the latest version as soon as we get to that point.

I need to get that thread finished, and I'd like some additional help if anyone would offer.