Discworld d20 - Anybody want to chip in?

[Sixchan]

I think he has more common sense and perception than that of an 8 wisdom, personally. And he does know one spell. Actually since he can cast it spontaneously, does that make him a sorceror?

 

[DDK]

I dunno. In Interesting Times, he was awfully popular, so he might have a higher Charisma. And I'd still have his dexterity above 18, since he is a fast runner, and since almost all NPCs that are Campaign specific have very high stats, so Rincewind not even having one seems a little...out.

Naw, you're thinking along Four-rotten Smells (Forgotten Realms) logic there. Rincewind is an anti-hero, as in he's the antithesis of what a hero is. Cohen is a hero, Rincewind is just in the wrong place at precisely the right time. You've also gotta remember that up until... err... which book was it, 'The Light Fantastic' I think, the Octavo was protecting him and after that, 'The Lady' watched over him so a lot of his survival is kinda Deus Ex.

Hmm...what would Carrot's charisma be? Well above 20, I'd say. Could even be in the 30s...

Naw, again, I think you're thinking too high. The Discworld is full of average savages who get bonked on the noggin once and pass out, not munchy dark elves with two swords of speed

Having said that, I'd give him somewhere in the realm of 18 to 20 though. That's plenty enough for him to be able to awe and inspire people. I'd also give him a template, something along the lines of "Royal Lineage... maybe"

EDIT: I forgot to mention that I haven't read 'Interesting Times' yet.

 

[Chronosome]

I think he has more common sense and perception than that of an 8 wisdom, personally. And he does know one spell. Actually since he can cast it spontaneously, does that make him a sorceror?

If his Wisdom were "up there", IMO, he'd change his name and move to Pseudopolis. Probably work as a sage or something.

Just my take, bud.

 

[Sixchan]

I've read:
The Colour of Magic
The Light Fantastic
Equal Rites
Mort
Sourcery
Wyrd Sisters
Pyramids
Guards! Guards!
Eric
Reaper Man
Small Gods
Lords and Ladies
Men at Arms
Soul Music
Ineresting Times
Feet of Clay
Hogfather
Jingo
The Last Continent
Carpe Jugulum
The Fifth Elephant
The Truth
Thief of Time

The Discworld Compendium
The Science of Discworld

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In Ineresting Times, he is still an Anti-Hero, but he's also the Great Hero of the Red Army.
And come to think of it, has Carrot ever been attacked? Ever? I don't think he has (maybe once), but you'd need a VERY high charisma to pull that off...

 

[Mathew_Freeman]

Um, I've read all of them. And I have signed copies of some of them. *holds up geek badge proudly*

And, IMHO, the Luggage is waaaaay underpowered there. You forgot:

a) it's totally invulnerable to magic
b) it thinks, therefore it has an intelligence score
c) it's beaten up Chrimera and Very Big Sharks before now, without suffering significant damage

Oh, and Rincewind hasn't head that spell in his head for, like, 25 books or something...

*looks at his own post*

Um, I'm sounding really condescending and pompous, aren't I? Apologies...

 

[DDK]

Oops

I realized after reading that other list that I haven't updated my list (yes, I actually keep a list) in a while so it's inaccurate.

The Colour of Magic
The Light Fantastic
Equal Rites
Mort
Sourcery
Hogfather
Jingo
The Last Continent
Carpe Jugulem
The Fifth Elephant
Thief of Time
The Truth
Guards! Guards!
Wyrd Sisters
Feet of Clay
Men at Arms
Reaper Man
The Last Hero
Moving Pictures

These two I read most of but couldn't finish because I really wasn't enjoying them:
Pyramids
Eric

My favourite characters is definitely Vimes. Despite being surrounded by characters like Carrot and Detritus (Big D comes in a very close 2nd) and Angua and Vetinari, etc., he still manages to be the one who pulls it all together and ends up... well, maybe not smiling, but at the very least, grinning

By the way, if you haven't read 'The Last Hero', I thoroughly recommend picking it up. It's a full-colour, glossy hardback of about 100 or so pages, slightly larger than A4. The story is about Cohen the Barbarian and the (IIRC) Silver Horde who attempt to return fire to the gods... with interest Aside from being incredibly funny, it has THE best illustrations in it by far. I just noticed a week ago that there was a revised edition but I didn't get a chance to look at it so I'm not sure which is better.

Oh, and Tallarn, I envy you. I had an opportunity to meet him at a book signing for Night Watch here and I FORGOT to go I hate my brain sometimes

 

[The Grey Dwarf]

Don't forget something. The series continues...

TP gives skills to the characters as needed. You are sure now that the wizards can have skills like Scrying but they can also have Ice Skating. Who knows? No even TP, IMO.

I tried in my time to convert the Discworld to D&D and I failed. Mainly because everything is possible. Think of the camels for example, the parrot from Eric, ...

As for a class of Mi..s (oops, nearly said it). Who would want to play a character class that spends his (short) live head down in a scorpion pit ?

Good luck to you, anyway.
Most of all, have fun.

 

[Chronosome]

And, IMHO, the Luggage is waaaaay underpowered there. You forgot:

a) it's totally invulnerable to magic
b) it thinks, therefore it has an intelligence score
c) it's beaten up Chrimera and Very Big Sharks before now, without suffering significant damage

Hmm...good points. Here's the deal, then.

a) I'll fix that right away.

b) It's made of sapient pearwood, but has been said not to be intelligent...I know it has, damn it! I think it's more pure "it", hence the Charisma...

c) So...damage reduction, then...hmm...

 

[wolff96]

I've tried before and it just isn't possible in my opinion.

I *LOVE* the Discworld series. But I just don't think you can capture what makes them great into a system that isn't horrifically broken.

Oh, and Fourecks... What about Ponder Stibbins (sp?) and his gang of students? As we saw in Soul Music and some of the later works, they actually ARE trying to understand the universe. Mainly through the equivalent of computers and quantum physics in a middle ages world, but...

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As a side note, Susan Sto Helit and Lao-tzu are definitely in the demi-god range, MINIMUM.

Lao-tzu's friend (whose name escapes me)... the sweeper in the temple. He is probably a minorly epic-level character with a time-related prestige class in addition to his monk levels...

 

[DDK]

I *LOVE* the Discworld series. But I just don't think you can capture what makes them great into a system that isn't horrifically broken.

As much as I'd love to play in the Discworld, I agree. I think freeform, diceless roleplaying is probably the best way to go but even then, you'd need a DM who can REALLY think on his feet

Oh, and Fourecks... What about Ponder Stibbins (sp?) and his gang of students? As we saw in Soul Music and some of the later works, they actually ARE trying to understand the universe. Mainly through the equivalent of computers and quantum physics in a middle ages world, but...

Yes, well, there's always ONE who points out such niggling little details like this, Mr. Wolf. Are you sure you're not a Technologist? You look suspiciously ASTUTE! We can't have that; astuteness is the harbinger of curiosity, and we all know what happened to the cat now, don't we?!

Anyway... Ponder isn't a wizard. IIRC, he technically never passed the test... oh wait, did he? Was he forced to or something? I can't remember... I just remember him knowing everything so that he could always get 84 on the tests so as never to become a wizard Oh wait! No! That was his roommate that did that! Or was it... dammit, now I can't remember, I'm going to have to read it again... I'm rambling, aren't I? Sleep deprivation and Terry Pratchett will do that to a mind...

As a side note, Susan Sto Helit and Lao-tzu are definitely in the demi-god range, MINIMUM.

Well, Lao became the god of time so I think his ranking is pretty clear, but Susan wouldn't have to be a demi-god. She could easily do all of her stuff with a few levels of expert and a hefty template that gave her, her special abilities.

Lao-tzu's friend (whose name escapes me)... the sweeper in the temple. He is probably a minorly epic-level character with a time-related prestige class in addition to his monk levels...

Lu-tze... always remember... RULE NUMBER ONE! Him and Detritus tie for my 2nd favourite character