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Disney Plus could be rebooting Firefly

Well is it?

  • I'll be in my bunk (Yes)

    Votes: 8 22.9%
  • No

    Votes: 20 57.1%
  • Serenity Curry

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • Total voters
    35

billd91

Hobbit on Quest
1. The original Firefly is basically "the Lost Cause" set to film. Once you see it as neo-Confederacy propaganda, unwitting or not, it's hard to unsee. It's basically a "space western" that is retelling the story of Confederate soldiers in the western frontier.
There are similarities. But they're largely superficial since the Browncoats weren't fighting for a society based on exploitation of a whole race of people. I'm not necessarily going to knock someone being critical of the show because they found those similarities off-putting. But this is one of the few environments where a heavily western-style show and storytelling can work without actually being tainted by either slavery or colonialist warring against indigenous cultures.
 

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Sacrosanct

Legend
Firefly couldn't get viewers when it was new. The whole reason it was cancelled. It didn't become really popular until after it was cancelled, and thus many fans became fans because suddenly here was a show not treated right by the execs, and it's easy to root for the underdog. Don't get me wrong, I like the show, but it's gonna have some serious challenges to do a reboot. Then you've got all the reasons already mentioned about why this is a bad idea. People will be expecting the original, comparing it to the original like it or not, and they will be disappointed.
 

Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
There are similarities. But they're largely superficial since the Browncoats weren't fighting for a society based on exploitation of a whole race of people.

Whedon created the series after reading The Killer Angels. I'd say that there are more than similarities.

It's never really stated what the Browncoats were fighting for, but yes, I would have been surprised if Joss had an episode where it was revealed that Mal was really a plantation slaver pining for the old days.

Again, I like Firefly, but it's definitely uncomfortable in parts.
 

Ryujin

Adventurer
They are terribly unlikely to get anything like the chemistry of the original, which was its real selling point. So, I don't expect this to turn out well.
Agreed. It was a thing of its time with a cast that worked incredibly well together, which is a hallmark of Wedon series. It's why he so frequently works with the same actor pool, over and over again. Capturing that again is very unlikely.

If someone wants to play in the same sandbox, without trying to directly recreate magic since past, is a completely different thing.

 

Sacrosanct

Legend
And you can forget about the original cast getting together, even for cameos. Some of them may just not do it for one reason or another, and you can believe Adam Baldwin won't be allowed anywhere near it (just imagine the backlash from fans if he did).
 

MGibster

Legend
Star Trek was cancelled in 1969 and we got Star Trek the Next Generation in 1987. Firefly was cancelled in 2002 so clearly it's time for Firefly: The Next Generation. Just picture a series set 75 years in the future with a cameo by an old, old Inara trying to sell the ship to some new young adventurer.

Okay, that's a terrible idea. I liked Firefly but it's been 18 years and it's just time to let it go. Two of the main characters are dead and one of the actors has passed away in real life.
 

Ryujin

Adventurer
Star Trek was cancelled in 1969 and we got Star Trek the Next Generation in 1987. Firefly was cancelled in 2002 so clearly it's time for Firefly: The Next Generation. Just picture a series set 75 years in the future with a cameo by an old, old Inara trying to sell the ship to some new young adventurer.

Okay, that's a terrible idea. I liked Firefly but it's been 18 years and it's just time to let it go. Two of the main characters are dead and one of the actors has passed away in real life.
Based on what was revealed in the cast reunion, there would be no "old, old Inara."
 




GreyLord

Hero
I don't know...there are some things for it and some things against it I think...

No -

1. The story as told is basically complete. Abridge, shortened, and skips some parts, but overall complete. Unless you want to start retconning the series or rewriting things or rebooting, there's no real reason to revisit it. Most who like the show really would not appreciate retcons, rewrites, or rebooting the entire things, so that's a Big no on those points.

2. If you go for a continuation, several of people's favorite characters are dead and it may be hard to some of the old cast to sign back up again. One big driving factor for the show was the cast. If you just try to do a continuation with the surviving members of the crew after the movie you'll get some who watch it, but without the charm of some of the old crew, others may be turned off.

3. Disney almost never follows the storyline, so expect it to be completely changed if they take over it as a continuation. From the beginning Disney has done it's own thing. They do not like following what the storylines say they should do. Sometimes this works out (Snow White, the Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Marvel), sometimes it does not (the Black Cauldron, Star Wars Sequels, Treasure Planet) for a majority of the general audiences. Expect that if they take over Firefly they will do the same and the new stories will not mesh with the old series. The tone will be different, the story will be changed, and characterizations will be extremely different.
{PS - In the above, when it does not work out it does not mean it's hated. There are many who may still love them, for example there are probably tons of people that love Treasure Planet, the Black Cauldron, and the Star Wars Sequels for example, but these movies that don't work for everyone have a divisive character about them that gives a wide range/swath of opinions regarding their faithfulness to what they are based upon with some feeling they are, others they are not and being dissatisfied, and a whole gamut of other feelings towards these types of movies).

Pros

1. If they put Joss Whedon in charge, though he will still be subject to the whims of Disney, he could use it to enrich and expand the Firefly universe.

2. If he wipes the slate clean (in otherwords, gets rid of almost all the crew) but retains the ship and maybe one or two of the old cast members (perhaps the captain, or another member) and then has an entirely new crew to the ship, he could use that to create a new show with whatever flavor he wants which allows free agency and freedom to go as he and Disney wants. This could result in a new approach which could make old fans and new fans happy.

3. For those who really want more Firefly, it gives the opportunity for the really hardcore fans to get more Firefly.

4. It gives Whedon (if he get's put in charge) the opportunity to tell new stories within the universe of Firefly which may or may not be connected to the original series.

So, I can see absolute positives and negatives...it would just depend on how it turns out.
 

Zaukrie

New Publisher
Seems like you could have a different crew and new stories, set in that world.......but when it said family friendly, I started to lose interest. I'd like Disney to stretch a bit........

I would prefer not a reboot, but a new story.....there is plenty of things we don't know (if we only watched the show and movie). Plenty of unexplored stuff.....
 

payn

Explorer
The show was fun, but it really was the cast that made it so. The setting? Meh, its pretty generic and not that interesting.
 


nevin

Adventurer
Firefly couldn't get viewers when it was new. The whole reason it was cancelled. It didn't become really popular until after it was cancelled, and thus many fans became fans because suddenly here was a show not treated right by the execs, and it's easy to root for the underdog. Don't get me wrong, I like the show, but it's gonna have some serious challenges to do a reboot. Then you've got all the reasons already mentioned about why this is a bad idea. People will be expecting the original, comparing it to the original like it or not, and they will be disappointed.
Fox wanted a buffy the vampire slayer level of viewership. But Firefly started out with more viewers than Buffy did it's first season. And that's after being put in a what was then called the Friday evening Death Slot where fox sent shows to die.
Also Fox rearranged the shows and the Pilot didn't show till the end. So if you've ever watched the entire series on the DVD's from beginning to end, Imagine just scrambling the episodes up and watching the pilot as the last one.

I do think there's a serious chance of people not being happy if it's not very close to the original and if the chemistry between the characters isn't great. Hopefully they'll have Joss do it and let him do his thing this time without micromanaging him.
 


Sabathius42

Bree-Yark
I think it could work if it was an animated series. They could throw a bucket of cash at Wheden and the cast and see how many returning crew members they could get back on board.

I'd only watch it if it were an animated series for grownups, though. I've had so many people tell me that Clone Wars is spectacular but I just can't get past Stinky the Hutt (or whatever that character's name was).
 


FitzTheRuke

Legend
The only way it would work for me is if it's a completely new ship and crew with a totally different storyline set in the same universe. I'm not sure there's a point in making that, but if it were THAT and GOOD, then I guess I'd be in. Otherwise, I just can't imagine it.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Yeah... nah.
It's time has come and gone.

Is there room for another sf series about a group of witty nomadic mercenary ne'er-do-wells and their ship? Sure! But not this one. Firefly is done.
See, I disagree completely with this. The time has never been better for a sequel show.

There will never be a right time for a reboot, because the premise is all that’s left in a reboot, and that isn’t what is good about Firefly.

But 15 years later, River is the pilot, Zoe has a teenage kid, Mal is ready to retire and own some land somewhere way out on the edge of known space, and some specter of their past comes back to haunt them? That’s a good show.
 

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