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Disney Plus could be rebooting Firefly

Well is it?

  • I'll be in my bunk (Yes)

    Votes: 8 22.9%
  • No

    Votes: 20 57.1%
  • Serenity Curry

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • Total voters
    35

FitzTheRuke

Legend
So... why not? Just do it. Art is hard and nothing is sacrosanct. More Firefly will probably be bad — because most things are — but maybe it’ll be good.

You have a good point. What do we have to loose? If it's good, we can have something to enjoy, and if it's not (even if that's likely) we can just turn it off. Disney and whoever works on it has far more at stake, but that's on them. Might as well go for it.
 

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darjr

I crit!
Good luck.

I loved Firefly and HATE that it was cancelled for dumb and possibly terrible reasons.

I hope they create something wonderful.
 


Khelon Testudo

Cleric of Stronmaus
Doing a sequel with the offspring of the previous characters is sufficiently different for it to work... except really, I don't think the Firefly universe is all that interesting.
 


FitzTheRuke

Legend
The solicitation for "Firefly Brand New 'Verse" Comic reads:

Set 20 years after the events of Firefly, Serenity soars the 'Verse once again with a new captain – Emma, the daughter of Wash and Zo !

The old crew of Serenity has gone their own way and now Emma is working to prove herself to Zo , alongside a new crew of castaways and misfits just trying to stay afloat.

But when Serenity takes a job from a familiar face, they discover that their new, living, breathing cargo is far more than they bargained for…and might bring them into conflict with Alliance once again!


...Take that for whatever you will.
 


Zardnaar

Legend
The solicitation for "Firefly Brand New 'Verse" Comic reads:

Set 20 years after the events of Firefly, Serenity soars the 'Verse once again with a new captain – Emma, the daughter of Wash and Zo !

The old crew of Serenity has gone their own way and now Emma is working to prove herself to Zo , alongside a new crew of castaways and misfits just trying to stay afloat.

But when Serenity takes a job from a familiar face, they discover that their new, living, breathing cargo is far more than they bargained for…and might bring them into conflict with Alliance once again!


...Take that for whatever you will.

Something like that is better than a reboot.

Right cast and writers might work.
 

I didn't watch that serie. The option of a spiritual succesor is possible. The reboot could allow to add lot of new things, for example more characters with psionic powers, transgenic humanoids (not alien neccesary), ravagers as a mixture of necromorphs(Dead Space) + borgs (Star Treck), rival factions between the interstellar dominion (not only the classic evil megacorporations but also secret societis/deep state), androids and ginoids with organic "brains", digital inmortality and mind upload used to punish political prisoners who altered memories to think they are guilty for crimes they didn't commited, in penal colonies of forced works. Sects about alien civilitations creating failed utopies...

The true key is to do a right work, not only good stories and evolution of the characters, but also an interesting setting.
 

trappedslider

Adventurer
I didn't watch that serie. The option of a spiritual succesor is possible. The reboot could allow to add lot of new things, for example more characters with psionic powers, transgenic humanoids (not alien neccesary), ravagers as a mixture of necromorphs(Dead Space) + borgs (Star Treck), rival factions between the interstellar dominion (not only the classic evil megacorporations but also secret societis/deep state), androids and ginoids with organic "brains", digital inmortality and mind upload used to punish political prisoners who altered memories to think they are guilty for crimes they didn't commited, in penal colonies of forced works. Sects about alien civilitations creating failed utopies...

The true key is to do a right work, not only good stories and evolution of the characters, but also an interesting setting.
Ummm....did you see the movie? I'm guessing you meant reavers not ravagers, and the movie established how they came to be and Joss has confirmed the nonexistence of aliens in this particular universe, which is also set in a single star system. None of what you suggest sounds remotely like Firefly and sounds more like a mish-mash of different sci-fi shows.
 

Omand

Adventurer
Ummm....did you see the movie? I'm guessing you meant reavers not ravagers, and the movie established how they came to be and Joss has confirmed the nonexistence of aliens in this particular universe, which is also set in a single star system. None of what you suggest sounds remotely like Firefly and sounds more like a mish-mash of different sci-fi shows.
@trappedslider I have found that LuisCarlos is all about throwing together all universes into one, no matter what genre or topic you are talking about. For D&D he wants a every single setting rebooted in a Crisis of Infinite Earths style crossover event caused by chronomancers (some sort of time travel accident pulls everything together). For Sci-Fi he evidently wants every major franchise pulled together as well.

You can try reasoning that these things cannot occur due to the reasons you have given, but he appears unlikely to be swayed.

Cheers :)
 

You are right about a "mish-mash" of different ideas. Why not? The future of the entertaiment industry is the multimedia franchises. Firefly can't be only a space wester because other companies also can produce their own titles with the same formule.

Maybe Firefly was a good serie, but sci-fi gets old fastly, and its universe was not enough "sandbox" for roleplayers, not if it compared with other IPs. It is not so fun if you are not Serenity crew or a rip-off.

And today lots of no-Chinese Asians wouldn't confortable if Chinese culture is too present in the reboot but others don't (not only Japan and Korea). I mean the no-Chinese Asias could ask their own positive discrimination quota.

My suggestion for Disney+ is adapting Alien Legion by the seal "Epic Comics", Jim Starlin's Dreadstar or "the Swords of the Swashbucklers" by Bill Mantlo. These IPs are easier to sell merchadising as toys, comics....
 

Ryujin

Adventurer
You are right about a "mish-mash" of different ideas. Why not? The future of the entertaiment industry is the multimedia franchises. Firefly can't be only a space wester because other companies also can produce their own titles with the same formule.

Maybe Firefly was a good serie, but sci-fi gets old fastly, and its universe was not enough "sandbox" for roleplayers, not if it compared with other IPs. It is not so fun if you are not Serenity crew or a rip-off.

And today lots of no-Chinese Asians wouldn't confortable if Chinese culture is too present in the reboot but others don't (not only Japan and Korea). I mean the no-Chinese Asias could ask their own positive discrimination quota.

My suggestion for Disney+ is adapting Alien Legion by the seal "Epic Comics", Jim Starlin's Dreadstar or "the Swords of the Swashbucklers" by Bill Mantlo. These IPs are easier to sell merchadising as toys, comics....
The "space western" and limited scope are part of the property's charm. Change that and it's not the same show, nor is it even in the same storytelling universe. In that case just make another series with all of those elements and not call it anything related to "Firefly."

It's like trying to run a D&D campaign that ranges from medieval fantasy to Sci-Fi when there's already a perfectly good RPG (TORG) to fill that role ;)
 

trappedslider

Adventurer
You are right about a "mish-mash" of different ideas. Why not? The future of the entertaiment industry is the multimedia franchises. Firefly can't be only a space wester because other companies also can produce their own titles with the same formule.

Maybe Firefly was a good serie, but sci-fi gets old fastly, and its universe was not enough "sandbox" for roleplayers, not if it compared with other IPs. It is not so fun if you are not Serenity crew or a rip-off.

And today lots of no-Chinese Asians wouldn't confortable if Chinese culture is too present in the reboot but others don't (not only Japan and Korea). I mean the no-Chinese Asias could ask their own positive discrimination quota.

My suggestion for Disney+ is adapting Alien Legion by the seal "Epic Comics", Jim Starlin's Dreadstar or "the Swords of the Swashbucklers" by Bill Mantlo. These IPs are easier to sell merchadising as toys, comics....
so you want something new,not Firefly got it.
 

Omand

Adventurer
You are right about a "mish-mash" of different ideas. Why not? The future of the entertaiment industry is the multimedia franchises. Firefly can't be only a space wester because other companies also can produce their own titles with the same formule.

Maybe Firefly was a good serie, but sci-fi gets old fastly, and its universe was not enough "sandbox" for roleplayers, not if it compared with other IPs. It is not so fun if you are not Serenity crew or a rip-off.

And today lots of no-Chinese Asians wouldn't confortable if Chinese culture is too present in the reboot but others don't (not only Japan and Korea). I mean the no-Chinese Asias could ask their own positive discrimination quota.

My suggestion for Disney+ is adapting Alien Legion by the seal "Epic Comics", Jim Starlin's Dreadstar or "the Swords of the Swashbucklers" by Bill Mantlo. These IPs are easier to sell merchadising as toys, comics....
@LuisCarlos17f I have gathered that English is not your primary language, so I think one thing is getting lost in translation in our discussions.

Multimedia does not mean that you take every genre and mash it together to make the future of entertainment. Multimedia means that you produce a property (Firefly, Star Wars, D&D) in several different types of media (film, television, computer games, RPG, etc.).

You may know this, but the post I have quoted seems to indicate you think that Firefly/Serenity has to be mashed up into something else because that is multimedia, that only being a space western is not enough for multimedia.

Cheers :)

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Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
I am quite doubtful that it will be any good, barring really good cast chemistry.

Right cast and writers might work.

Um, folks, you missed a thing - this is a COMIC BOOK series. Not TV. There is no cast.


"A Brand New Verse is being written by Josh Lee Gordon, with artwork by Fabiana Mascolo, and cover art by Qustina Khalidah. It is set to hit stores on March 10, 2021."

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Is it better to say "transmedia franchise"?

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It's true, English isn't my mother tongue/first language.

I don't mind if the name is ravager or reavers. The fact is I can't believe a group of mad men can drive a space ship but using some dummies-proof technology. If you have played some strategy game you know the impact of the wear. And the reavers aren't the type of people who can survive enough for at least three generations.

I didn't talk about aliens in the Firefly universe but about people who believe in the existence of aliens. That is an important aspect.

And today the "Alliance/Union of Allied Planets" may be potentially politically incorrect. It is not only by the bad relations between Chinese, Japanese and Sourth-Koreans, but also in the 2021 the public opinion will think different things about China because there are happening some facts in our real life.

I am not against the trope of evil megacorporation but the abuse of this.

Maybe you are right, if the changes are too much it is better to star from zero with a new franchise as a spiritual succesor.

We can't forget the high-tech, for example robots who nanotechnology to repair airships, 3D-printers and LED light for underground farming, allowing hidden "dungeons" as post-apocalypse bunkers. Or the secret of eternal youth being discovered, thanks the regenation of the telomeres (you can imagine the social impact when you end the university but you can't find a job because nobody retires), or "the club of the inmortals", important people whose minds are upoloaded to a high-tech server.
 

trappedslider

Adventurer

Is it better to say "transmedia franchise"?

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It's true, English isn't my mother tongue/first language.

I don't mind if the name is ravager or reavers. The fact is I can't believe a group of mad men can drive a space ship but using some dummies-proof technology. If you have played some strategy game you know the impact of the wear. And the reavers aren't the type of people who can survive enough for at least three generations.

I didn't talk about aliens in the Firefly universe but about people who believe in the existence of aliens. That is an important aspect.

And today the "Alliance/Union of Allied Planets" may be potentially politically incorrect. It is not only by the bad relations between Chinese, Japanese and Sourth-Koreans, but also in the 2021 the public opinion will think different things about China because there are happening some facts in our real life.

I am not against the trope of evil megacorporation but the abuse of this.

Maybe you are right, if the changes are too much it is better to star from zero with a new franchise as a spiritual succesor.

We can't forget the high-tech, for example robots who nanotechnology to repair airships, 3D-printers and LED light for underground farming, allowing hidden "dungeons" as post-apocalypse bunkers. Or the secret of eternal youth being discovered, thanks the regenation of the telomeres (you can imagine the social impact when you end the university but you can't find a job because nobody retires), or "the club of the inmortals", important people whose minds are upoloaded to a high-tech server.
Yeah that's not Firefly which is a space western.
fom wiki Firefly is an American space Western drama,I think you said you haven't seen it...you should check it out. Because you keep tossing out ideas that have almost nothing to do with Firefly.

Some of what you said has more to do with Alter Carbon than Firefly.
 

Ryujin

Adventurer

Is it better to say "transmedia franchise"?
A multimedia franchise is a production that ties in different mediums, in order to expand upon the basic story. It can use traditional broadcast media, internet streaming, virtual reality, games..... That doesn't really apply to Firefly. The only SciFi show that I can currently think of that this label would apply to, is "Defiance." That was a Science Fiction series that was filmed in Toronto (the sets, down along the lake front, were rather amazing). It was not just a TV series but also a video game and things that happened in the video game were incorporated into the story for TV.

 

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