Dispute.

[xigbar]

Me and a friend of mine are looking through Tome of Magic, and he is convinced that Metashadow Feats, based on the text, don't increase the effective spell level, and I say that part saying "Metashadow Feats function identically to Metamagic feats in all ways not specifically contradicted herein," says otherwise. He is of the opinion that he can cast a quickened Time Stop in this way, which sounds ridiculous to me. What do you think?

 

[Talonblaze]

"Metashadow Feats function identically to Metamagic feats in all ways not specifically contradicted herein,"

I think that trumps his assumption if its actually written that way.

 

[xigbar]

I think that trumps his assumption if its actually written that way.

Yes, I told him the same thing.

 

[Theo R Cwithin]

Yes, I told him the same thing.

Yes, but did you punch him in the face to get your point across?

 

[xigbar]

Yes, but did you punch him in the face to get your point across?

Not yet, maybe I'll try that.

 

[Dandu]

Arcane Spellsurge and a Metamagic Rod of Quicken Spell also allow you to get off Time Stop as a swift action.

 

[xigbar]

Arcane Spellsurge and a Metamagic Rod of Quicken Spell also allow you to get off Time Stop as a swift action.

Yes, you can do that. But it shouldn't be right there as just a class ability and one feat. Holes in game mechanics should only be found by peolpe paying too much attention.

 

[Dandu]

I agree it probably doesn't work like that, just letting you know how it would stand if it did vs other classes.

 

[xigbar]

I agree it probably doesn't work like that, just letting you know how it would stand if it did vs other classes.

I agree, it's not the most broken thing, and Shadowcasters are pretty underpowered due to many restrictions inherent in the class mechanics, but I'd allow it if the rules supported it. I just don't think they do, and I'm looking for a logical arguement other than the most obvious I one already made.

 

[Dandu]

I favor "Be not so like unto the hindquarters of an equine, jackanapes."