Divine Metamagic Feat and Sudden Metamagic

[Darius]

Hi all,

Please forgive me if this question has been asked before but I couldn't find anything on it when I went looking back.

Can I apply the Divine Metamagic feat to Sudden metamagic feats to get extra uses of the sudden feats? If so, how many turn undead uses would I have to spend?

Any help is appreciated.

 

[hong]

You would be able to expend zero uses of turn undead to be able to use a sudden metamagic feat without increasing the spell's level, since a sudden metamagic feat normally increases a spell by zero levels. Unfortunately, this has no effect on the limit of how many times you can use the sudden metamagic feat per day....

 

[FireLance]

You would be able to expend zero uses of turn undead to be able to use a sudden metamagic feat without increasing the spell's level, since a sudden metamagic feat normally increases a spell by zero levels. Unfortunately, this has no effect on the limit of how many times you can use the sudden metamagic feat per day....

Actually, you'd have to spend one use of turn undead, since it's the number of level increases plus one. This should allow you to apply the effect of the sudden metamagic feat to the spell you cast provided you haven't already run up against the once per day limit.

 

[Thanee]

Yep, Divine Metamatic lets you apply the Sudden Metamagic feat spontaneously without an increase in spell level, but does not remove the 1/day limit.

Pretty pointless, really, unless you want to waste a feat on being able to waste a turn attempt 1/day for basically nothing. At least it's limited to 1/day so you still have some turn attempts left afterwards.

Bye
Thanee