Dmg II

The Shaman said:
First, I'm really looking forward to seeing this.

Second, what you've described is what I envision a blacksmith's shop to be, based on the historical examples and recreations I've seen, and underlines why that line strikes me as asinine.

It's part of a larger whole, of course...No, I really don't - it's part of a pervasive use of anachronistic architecture and engineering that is woven into the canon D&D universe, and it sets my teeth on edge.

Some people are comfortable with genre D&D - I am not.

It says it's a blacksmith's SHOP, not a Forge. The forge may well be out back someplace or even in another location and this is simply where the products are sold.
 

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Rackhir said:
It says it's a blacksmith's SHOP, not a Forge. The forge may well be out back someplace or even in another location and this is simply where the products are sold.
OMG, I can't believe this is being dredged up again.

I don't know if you've ever been to a smithy, but none of the examples I've seen bear even a passing resemblance to an Ace Hardware store. If you've seen a medieval smithy with a showroom, please by all means share the details with us - I always like to learn new things.
 


The Shaman said:
If you've seen a medieval smithy with a showroom, please by all means share the details with us - I always like to learn new things.

I don't know, can you show us a medieval smithy with elves and dwarves and halflings and gnomes and halforcs shopping in it?

:p
 



The Shaman said:
OMG, I can't believe this is being dredged up again.

I don't know if you've ever been to a smithy, but none of the examples I've seen bear even a passing resemblance to an Ace Hardware store. If you've seen a medieval smithy with a showroom, please by all means share the details with us - I always like to learn new things.

I've been to multiple "medieval" smithies in Toledo, Spain. All of them fairly small.
They ALL had showrooms. Of course these smithies produced swords, daggers, and armor... which is unlike the typical medieval smithy, which produced horseshoes and plows.

It's not that hard to imagine though, assuming the blacksmith had two rooms in the building. Gee, what if you had a blacksmith who had TWO rooms rather than ONE room. Oooooh... What would he do with that other room?!?!?!

Come on, how many "actual" blacksmiths do you force upon your players? I can see it now:

Player: I want to go to a blacksmith so I can get some weapons and armor.

DM: Sorry the town blacksmith is a typical medieval blacksmith.

Player: What's that mean?

DM: It means he only sells crappy farm equipment. Nothing you want. Certainly not swords and spiked chains.

Player: Uh... okay, can I catch a caravan to somewhere else?

DM: Sorry. Typical medieval people rarely went further than a mile from home. You're on your own.

Player: Okay, I walk to the nearest city.

DM: Okay, you enter the city... Oops, you've caught the plague! Very common in medieval cities...
 


Simplicity said:
Come on, how many "actual" blacksmiths do you force upon your players? I can see it now:

Player: I want to go to a blacksmith so I can get some weapons and armor.

DM: Sorry the town blacksmith is a typical medieval blacksmith.

Player: What's that mean?

DM: It means he only sells crappy farm equipment. Nothing you want. Certainly not swords and spiked chains.

Player: Uh... okay, can I catch a caravan to somewhere else?

DM: Sorry. Typical medieval people rarely went further than a mile from home. You're on your own.

Player: Okay, I walk to the nearest city.

DM: Okay, you enter the city... Oops, you've caught the plague! Very common in medieval cities...
Um...yes, actually, that's about right.
 


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