The Shaman
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4e will come when WotC runs out of 1e and 2e material to republish as 3e.
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D&D 4E DnD 4E DOA?
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Maggan
Writer for CY_BORG, Forbidden Lands and Dragonbane
The WotC 4e conspiracy
So, you're saying that WotC are paying some company to enlist gamers to talk about D&D 4e to make us all comfortable with the thought of a new edition, so that they can announce one as soon as possible?
Didn't you forget a smiley?
As far as I am concerned, WotC could release 4e tomorrow if they wanted to. I'd take a look at it, see if I wanted it, and then buy it if I felt it would be fun to have and to run. 3.5 didn't burn me, didn't turn me into a cynic. It was a revision, with the rules updates freely available on the internet. I bought the books because I wanted to, not because someone threatened me.
Before Charles Ryan's statement that 4e will be announced like a year before the release of said edition proves to be wrong, every day that 4e is not announced means it is still at least one year away.
Cheers
M.
Sholari said:
So, you're saying that WotC are paying some company to enlist gamers to talk about D&D 4e to make us all comfortable with the thought of a new edition, so that they can announce one as soon as possible?
Didn't you forget a smiley?
As far as I am concerned, WotC could release 4e tomorrow if they wanted to. I'd take a look at it, see if I wanted it, and then buy it if I felt it would be fun to have and to run. 3.5 didn't burn me, didn't turn me into a cynic. It was a revision, with the rules updates freely available on the internet. I bought the books because I wanted to, not because someone threatened me.
Before Charles Ryan's statement that 4e will be announced like a year before the release of said edition proves to be wrong, every day that 4e is not announced means it is still at least one year away.
Cheers
M.
I'm A Banana
Potassium-Rich
3.5 has some bleeding wounds that aren't entirely patch-able in the system as written....things it wasn't really meant to handle, that it ended up handling anyway. Things like monsters-as-PC's (IMHO, it should be an easy transition, since they should be on the same general power scale...an extention of the "as the PC, so the NPC" concept that 3e has rang true with), multiclassing spellcasters (yes, everyone has their own house-rule on how to do this, including WotC, but no solution is very elegant), a painful lack of ninjas, a dependance of character upon items (again, everyone has their own house-rule on how to do this, but they're all patchwork), a level system that doesn't allow high level without high power (only a problem because some people like the best sages in the system to also be weaklings, but a thing nonetheless), some sacred cows that aren't too nessecary (a dependance on classes as archetypes instead of just as ability packages)....blah blah blah.
But the fact is that these problems are not enough to warrant a new edition of the game we all know and love, and any extensive re-write would jeapordize some of the things that make D&D D&D, some of the "sacred cows" that, if they were changed, wouldn't feel like D&D anymore.
Fortunately, out there in The World, 4e basically already exists. WotC isn't producing a lot for it, but it's out there. It's in the third party stuff. The things that tweak the system hardcore. The campaigns that do things that the D&D game could never really do -- re-balance, re-formulate, add nessecary features, take away unnessecary ones, etc, etc. Think of 4e as the other d20 games that aren't D&D-based, but are still OGL. Genres like horror, action, suspense, drama...heck, to a certain extent, d20 Modern can be considered 4e, and a lot of people have reverse-engineered it to make a generic d20 Fantasy.
You're waiting for 4e? Man, it's already here. WotC just hasn't caught up to it yet.
But the fact is that these problems are not enough to warrant a new edition of the game we all know and love, and any extensive re-write would jeapordize some of the things that make D&D D&D, some of the "sacred cows" that, if they were changed, wouldn't feel like D&D anymore.
Fortunately, out there in The World, 4e basically already exists. WotC isn't producing a lot for it, but it's out there. It's in the third party stuff. The things that tweak the system hardcore. The campaigns that do things that the D&D game could never really do -- re-balance, re-formulate, add nessecary features, take away unnessecary ones, etc, etc. Think of 4e as the other d20 games that aren't D&D-based, but are still OGL. Genres like horror, action, suspense, drama...heck, to a certain extent, d20 Modern can be considered 4e, and a lot of people have reverse-engineered it to make a generic d20 Fantasy.
You're waiting for 4e? Man, it's already here. WotC just hasn't caught up to it yet.
Aus_Snow
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We're all pretty happy here with customised and supplemented 3rd ed.
About the only foreseeable thing that might happen on my behalf should 4th edition appear anything like soon, would be that I comlpetely boycott WotC and persuade others to do likewise, for a number of years at least, out of principle.
I voted for "I might possibly buy 4th ed. in 2010 or so", or whatever. But that would be highly dependant on the amount and appropriateness of changes therein.
The later, the better.
About the only foreseeable thing that might happen on my behalf should 4th edition appear anything like soon, would be that I comlpetely boycott WotC and persuade others to do likewise, for a number of years at least, out of principle.
I voted for "I might possibly buy 4th ed. in 2010 or so", or whatever. But that would be highly dependant on the amount and appropriateness of changes therein.
The later, the better.
MonsterMash
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Where's Diaglo?
this thread lacks a post saying:
And I demand it is rectified!
Seriously I'm currently playing 3.5 and happy enough with that (though with some houseruling) and if I was going to change editions it would only be to OD&D(1974) or Basic/Expert.
this thread lacks a post saying:
And I demand it is rectified!
Seriously I'm currently playing 3.5 and happy enough with that (though with some houseruling) and if I was going to change editions it would only be to OD&D(1974) or Basic/Expert.
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