Do rings of wizardry affect more than 1 arcane spell casting class?

[Deset Gled]

You're adding that definition out of nowhere.

I'm adding that definition due to the word "specific". Of course, since "specific" is about as undefined as you can get in game terms, I would expect it means we're at a stalemate in the arguement.

 

[KarinsDad]

I'm adding that definition due to the word "specific". Of course, since "specific" is about as undefined as you can get in game terms, I would expect it means we're at a stalemate in the arguement.

Uh, not really.

DM: "Mr. 20th level Wizard / 20th level Sorcerer, how many 4th level spells do you have available each day?"

Player: "16."

DM: "No, no, I mean specifically of spell level 4."

Player: "16."

DM: "Oh, gotcha. My bad. Ok, now you have 32."


I do not think that word means what you think it means.

 

[zypherillius]

I would like to point out that he's talking about a hypothetical 40th level character. A 9th level ring of Wizardry is a trinket to such a man.

trinket? assuming hes not gestalt, thats a lot of time committed to a sorcerer or wizard, so a ring of 9th level wizardry would be devistating at 40th level, thats at least 8 crushing fists of spite from one class doubled, assuming you havent put the pluses into intelligence or chrisma, or didnt get books or items that up your stats still.
need be reminded, crushing fist of spite is 1 round a level of caster level d6 damage, max 20. reflex for half, and it will fail its save at least once in 20 rounds.

 

[IcyCool]

trinket? assuming hes not gestalt,

True, if he is gestalt then money becomes a concern. But what is the suggested wealth level of a 40th level character?

need be reminded, crushing fist of spite is 1 round a level of caster level d6 damage, max 20. reflex for half, and it will fail its save at least once in 20 rounds.

Why wouldn't you just move out of the area of effect? (And even at 20th level, improved evasion is easy to get).

 

[zypherillius]

True, if he is gestalt then money becomes a concern. But what is the suggested wealth level of a 40th level character?

Probably enough that he could afford to craft one, or pay somebody to craft one, assuming hes not gestalt.

Why wouldn't you just move out of the area of effect? (And even at 20th level, improved evasion is easy to get).

where does a 40th level sorcerer/wizard come across improved evasion? i thought improved evasion was only granted through certain classes and special abilities, i am aware of no core class or variant wizard sorcerer spells that grant improved evasion.

and yes, you could move out of the area of effect, but moving the fist is a free action, and the range is 100 ft +10 ft a level, and you cant improved evade it if youre denied your dex

 

[zypherillius]

True, if he is gestalt then money becomes a concern. But what is the suggested wealth level of a 40th level character?

Probably enough that he could forge it himself, or afford to pay somebody to afford to forge it.

Why wouldn't you just move out of the area of effect? (And even at 20th level, improved evasion is easy to get).

What wizard or sorcerer grants improved evasion as a class ability? I'm unaware of any spell that is greater evasion or improved evasion, so im not seeing the connect, unless theres an item that grants it, and the range on the fist is 100 + 10 per level, and how can you improved evade it if youre denied your dex

 

[IcyCool]

Probably enough that he could afford to craft one, or pay somebody to craft one, assuming hes not gestalt.

13,600,000 gp. Thirteen million. That's the suggested wealth level for a 40th level character. He can afford to buy these things and give them away as door prizes.

where does a 40th level sorcerer/wizard come across improved evasion? i thought improved evasion was only granted through certain classes and special abilities, i am aware of no core class or variant wizard sorcerer spells that grant improved evasion.

and yes, you could move out of the area of effect, but moving the fist is a free action, and the range is 100 ft +10 ft a level, and you cant improved evade it if youre denied your dex

I was referring to the target of the spell (presumably it is the 40th level sorcerer/wizard that is casting the spell). And with a minor amount of multiclassing, just about anyone can get improved evasion by 40th level.

At any rate, what does it matter? The 40th level caster is king when it comes to damage. That's the level at which the 40th level fighter is serving the wizard tea while he nukes the opposition.

 

[ValhallaGH]

Ring. Of. Evasion.

I have no doubt that a ring of improved evasion can be found in a game that also includes a 20 Sorcerer/ 20 Wizard.

 

[zypherillius]

13,600,000 gp. Thirteen million. That's the suggested wealth level for a 40th level character. He can afford to buy these things and give them away as door prizes.

is that before or after he bought his demiplane?

I was referring to the target of the spell (presumably it is the 40th level sorcerer/wizard that is casting the spell). And with a minor amount of multiclassing, just about anyone can get improved evasion by 40th level.

I was running under the assumption that it was 20 levels of each at 40th character level, not at least 41 character level, my bad.

At any rate, what does it matter? The 40th level caster is king when it comes to damage. That's the level at which the 40th level fighter is serving the wizard tea while he nukes the opposition.

Salting the land too so nothing grows for 1000 years?

 

[zypherillius]

Ring. Of. Evasion.

I have no doubt that a ring of improved evasion can be found in a game that also includes a 20 Sorcerer/ 20 Wizard.

im sure it can too, in fact, in the last 10 minutes, i just wrote the stats up for it. i think boots of improved evasion would work better though, it wouldnt chance interfering with the ring of true strike and the ring of 9th level wizardry hes already got.